Thread by @IanCutress

So to add to the Intel TDP and frequency confusion.

The '12-28W' TGL parts were listed with 28W base clocks. Intel's ARK database confirms this. If anything, we should probably post the 12W numbers to be closer to prev gen and competition.

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For the '7W-15W' TGL parts, Intel's spec list from the presentation actually gives the '9W' TDP mode nase frequency. Looking on ARK, the numbers for 7W and 15W are different, so we do actually have the 9W base clocks for these CPUs.

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Intel said 'TDP isn't useful', which I'm sure isn't a slogan that will be applied to Xeons, where TDP *is* useful. Obfuscating the power curve further just to get a higher number sounds like a 'hope they won't notice' move from comms? Or you know, Hanlon's Razor.

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We're still figuring out how we should represent this in future, especially as it bifurcates Intel's own specification delivery. I mean, I could just quote turbo and power, call the 1165G7 'a 50W CPU at 4.8 GHz', but that doesn't tell the whole story.

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Perhaps we should attach something like

B 1.2 GHz at 12 W
B 3.0 GHz at 28 W
T 4.8 GHz at 50 W

Every time these CPUs are mentioned. If that's the case, 'What's your BBT' should be the new slogan.

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Hopefully when we get parts in to test, we'll get the power curves for ourselves, and find out what these CPUs are reporting to the OS. There are easy ways to do this.

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Oh, and just to add more confusion into the mix, Intel didn't have a full list of TGL CPUs at the event. Some of these processors will be offered with and without the IPU, and these are classified as different part numbers.

e.g ark.intel.com/content/www/us…

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