Why I’m the most disliked vegan doctor, by vegans.
Intellectual honesty doesn’t always make you popular.
A thread.
First of all, I’m vegan. It’s my personal choice. Veganism is a lifestyle, not a diet. I don’t eat animal products, wear leather, and I do everything I can to minimize my harm to sentient beings.
But when it comes to my patients, I’m a cardiologist first. This means, I HAVE to follow the science. I cannot restrict myself to the dietary dogma in the vegan community that low fat plant based diets are the only way to eat.
I happen to love the health benefits of being on a well planned plant-based diet. For the last 6 years as a physician, I have been blessed to see numerous patients improve their health & put chronic disease HTN & HLD into remission using a plant-based or plant-predominant diet.
But I used to follow the low fat plant-based dietary dogma, hard. I used to tell my patients they couldn’t eat olive oil, nuts or avocado, because every Plant-Based doctor was advocating for this exact dietary plan.
Then something happened. I grew up a LOT in cardiology training. I did over 200 caths. I brought the plant-based diet trials to journal club & learned from brilliant interventional cardiologists why this was not actually disease reversal...
Plant-based diets may improve outcomes, which is important, but I started to question the data that claimed “plant-based diets reverse CAD”. (See @AviBittMD threads for more info about our critique)
I began to realize that every single Tuesday in my plant-based clinic, I was spending hours trying to convince my vegan patients that there is NOT robust data that they can reverse their CAD, and they NEED to stay on their statins in secondary prev (& many cases of primary prev)
I started to realize how frightening over promising and under delivering was, in any dietary paradigm.
And just because vegan doctors do it, doesn’t make it right.
I began learning from a lot of world renowned nutrition scientists like @KevinH_PhD@KCKlatt and @Dr__Guess how to better evaluate and dissect nutrition science.
The more I’ve learned and understood the science, the less I was drawn to the dogma. I’ve lost my dogmatic approach completely.
I’m still vegan, that will never change.
But the days of only recommending a highly restrictive low fat plant based diet are long gone. The idea that I ever thought olive oil, nuts or avocado was harmful, now makes me uncomfortable. But sadly, this is still pushed by many vegan physicians.
I still recommend well planned plant-based and plant predominant diets, because there are so many levels of evidence showing that a healthful plant-forward approach is beneficial in preventing chronic disease, improving outcomes, etc.
But I respect all dietary patterns, & understand there are many ways to be healthy. I’ve had patients thrive on plant-based keto, or high protein, or various other macronutrient patterns. I appreciate that you do not have to be 100% plant based to be healthy. Just eat plants.
Questioning science by well known vegan doctors has definitely been painful for me.
Including a stream of sexist memes and attacks because I said “olive oil does not cause heart disease”
I don’t expect I’ll ever be invited to speak at a vegan conference ever again. And if that’s the cost of intellectual honesty...
I can live with that.
I care about being an evidence based cardiologist above all else. Even if that means critiquing research in my own preferred dietary pattern.
At the end of the day, I want to help my patients get well any way that works for them: if that’s a low fat plant based diet, high (unsaturated) fat plant based diet, high protein plant based diet, or a diet that includes some animal products.
It’s undeniable that plant based diets are healthful, can help prevent chronic disease. But they are not a cure all. In many diseases, kale can not replace guideline directed medical therapy. But in nutrition, the dangers of overpromising and under delivering are real
Eating a healthful diet + following a healthful lifestyle + while adhering to guideline directed medical and procedural therapy when indicated, needs to be emphasized by every dietary paradigm.
I just want to say thank you to everyone for the immense support 🥺the nutrition world can be filled w/ endless pseudoscience and sadly, lots of bullies, but my dedication to cardiology, good science & my patients will always lead me in the right direction..so thank you v. much🙏
To be honest, I feel like I’ve finally broken free, from the dietary tribalism that scared me for so long from giving my opinion & critique on plant based nutrition science. Feeling no longer silenced or scared. My opinion in science matters.Thanks for the uplifting support & ❤️
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My brilliant med student asked me to explain correlation, causation, confounding &collider bias. I used the following ex… so sharing here in case anyone finds it helpful!
PS -I have learned much from @dnunan79 @Catalogofbias - a great resource for EBM. hopefully he approves😅
A statistical association between 2 variables implies that knowing the value of 1 variable, provides information about the value of the other. It does not necessarily imply that 1 causes the other. Correlation ≠ causation.
To claim that an association represents a causal effect, we need to first rule out 2 possible issues that lead to a non-causal association:
Heartbroken after seeing a young patient with no medical history, end up with a BIFFL GRADE II dissection of the vertebral artery and subsequent acute PICA infarct immediately after a neck adjustment from the chiropractor. This has to stop.
Chiropractors - you HAVE to stop.
How can we live in a world where it’s legal to perform something with zero evidence for benefit (neck adjustment from a chiro) when there are such incredibly dangerous and life changing risks?
And yet, insurance often covers chiropractic care- but doesn’t cover most dietitians.
Sick to my stomach thinking about how unfair this is for my patient. My patient does not work in healthcare, they were looking for help with pain. They trusted a licensed healthcare practitioner to provide care that has more benefit than harm. This is a disgrace.
1 year ago I met a patient w/ obesity, HLD, HTN & symptomatic paroxysmal afib, considering ablation.
She was nervous&held off on the procedure.
I started her on semaglutide & a plant predominant diet.
1 year later:⬇️42 lbs, HTN remission, afib undetectable, ablation cancelled!
In 12 months on semaglutide and a high fiber, plant predominant, low SFA diet:
⬇️Her weight dropped from 201 to 159.
⬇️Her BMI dropped from 31.5 to 24.9.
🩺Her Stage 2 Hypertension went into remission, her blood pressure normalized, and she was able to discontinue 2 blood pressure medications that she has been on for over 5 years.
@kevinnbass@bluestarpr@ethanjweiss@DrNadolsky@Drlipid@PeterAttiaMD@POhukainen What really drives LDL particles into the artery wall is particle#/apoB. Typically - 90-95% of your apoB lipoproteins are LDL particles. Once you exceed a certain threshold in the plasma, the liver can’t clear them – so they go into the arteries. 1/n
@kevinnbass@bluestarpr@ethanjweiss@DrNadolsky@Drlipid@PeterAttiaMD@POhukainen But when particle numbers (apoB, LDL-p) are discordant from cholesterol metrics (LDL-C, non HDL-c)—this is where people get mixed up -- but risk always traffics with the particle number/apoB. The ex I give my med students re small vs large LDL size, risk, and discordance -- 2/n
Thanks Optimizing PCI for inviting me to give a talk about nutrition & ASCVD prevention! I was so thrilled to see so much interest in prevention from all of my wonderful colleagues who put stents in every day!😊
Prevention is the best intervention, but thankful for interventional cardiologists who can intervene when our patients need it ❤️
For everyone asking — I have tons of free educational resources I created for my patients - that I put on my website for you to share with your patients too ❤️