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Sep 13, 2020 19 tweets 5 min read Read on X
This commentary on herd immunity thresholds is making the rounds today. There is nothing new in this article, and parts of its commentary are quite misleading. It is worth thinking about why a commentary like this is widely shared by scientists.
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nature.com/articles/s4157…
I worry that the ways in which the article is misleading is, in fact, precisely why it is widely shared.

E.g., they sow doubt for infection controlled immunity, suggesting that "several rounds of re-infection" might be needed to generate robust immune responses. 2/
This is not a reasonable level of uncertainty to apply in an article that also discusses vaccine-induced herd immunity as an inevitable eventuality.

Although they explain some of the mechanisms which can lower HIT's, they also say misleading things, e.g. that HITs are only... 3/
lowered if we expect that "it is always the same set of individuals that are potential super-spreaders." It is possible to stretch these statements into truths—in reality, heterogeneous contact models assume there is some durability in the *propensity* of people to interact,...
something which is very hard to question with a straight face—but phrasings are chosen here which, at the very least, are easily subject to misinterpretations by anyone who might have something to learn from this article.

Most problematic is that the authors suggest there's..5/
"little evidence" HITs for COVID-19 might be below 50%. It's particularly inappropriate to suggest this while failing to mention the only high-profile work I am aware of which has attempted to actually make any HIT predictions for particular countries.6/

We have a situation where the only people who have tried to predict HITs from the data have concluded that they are much less than 50% for several European countries, and then other people ignore this work, offer no competing predictions, and say we lack evidence.

Beyond...
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... the question of what HITs we should expect for COVID-19, the article also adopts a very misleading approach to analyzing the mortality which would result from immunity levels significant enough to control the epidemic. They ignore the significance of age in both... 8/11
transmission patterns and mortality, use a crude IFR range of .3%-1.3%, and suggest that herd immunity would inevitably (in their most optimistic scenarios, where we don't usually need multiple rounds of infection for robust immunity!) result 500k-2.1 million deaths.

Note...9/11
that it would seem reasonable for a reader to conclude that these authors believe that having 500k or fewer fatalities from HI is as unlikely as having 2.1 million or more.

Producing even half-reasonable estimates like this for COVID-19 requires, at a minimum, a basic 10/11
age-stratified epidemic model. Alarmist over-estimates are not an acceptable substitute.

We should not tolerate distortions of science, even when they could be used to support our favorite policy positions.
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Addendum:

Let me mention just one more anti-scientific aspect of this piece, which has featured prominently in many attempts to dismiss suggestions that HIT's can be low.

The authors of this article point out that there is a boat, where 70% of people became infected. 12/
In particular, they bring this up to attack what can be fairly characterized as a "strawman"; namely that 50% of humans are perfectly immune to infection by COVID-19, in the sense that they would never test PCR+ in any situation.

But the huge impact of heterogeneity on HITs..13/
does not depend this kind of "perfectly immune" population.

Biological variation in susceptibility affects HITs to the extent that the *probability* an individual is infected at a given exposure level varies at all from individual to individual. As with contact patterns, ...14/
heterogeneity in susceptibility should be our expectation; perfectly equal infection susceptibility would be a remarkable feature of the human species which would require some explanation.

Even if the strawman has no relevance, does the boat with 70%+ still tell us something?15/
Any epidemiologist who studies herd immunity thresholds would tell you that we should not expect HITs or final epidemic sizes to be the same in hyperlocal environments like boats, meatpacking plants, or nursing homes and towns, cities, and whole countries. Indeed, ... 16/
the HIT of COVID is a property not just of the infectious agent itself, but of our society and its interaction patterns; indeed, this is why it we should also not expect HITs to agree in all places and be careful about comparing, say, Manhattan with the country of Portugal 17/
(let alone comparing a country to a boat). 18/18
I agree with this suggestion; I certainly do not mean to "subtweet" anyone and would welcome a discussion with @SCauchemez and/or Fontanet about this article.

The same goes for those retweeting it, e.g. @michaelmina_lab, @AdamJKucharski, etc.



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Sep 15, 2022
Our statistical re-analysis of the Bangladesh mask trial data with @ChikinaLab and @beenwrekt has been published in Trials (@MedicalEvidence).

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trialsjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.11…
The Bangladesh trial was a big lift and to date the only cluster randomized trial of masks to generate any publicly available data. Another pre-registered trial in Bangladesh by the same authors was suspended, and a pre-registered trial in Guinnea-Bissau never reported.
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This unfortunately leaves us reading the tea leaves in this one completed study.

This paper is our read of the tea leaves.
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May 16, 2022
The most pressing questions about the COVID pandemic don't come in the form "can X happen?".

I was surprised at how little quantitative information this article contains, especially when we actually do have high quality data on reinfections.

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The ONS survey tracks reinfections through surveillance testing among its random sample of participants. Even though the recent Omicron waves, the observed reinfection rate has been 1 per thousand or so days.

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ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati… Image
These rates are no guarantee of the future, but science journalism should present the best data have, rather than relying on anecdotes.

In lieu of data like this, the article instead leans heavily on the feelings shared by expert commentators (every one of whom is on Twitter).3/
Read 8 tweets
Feb 4, 2022
As a growing number of people criticize continued restrictions on children and young people, the responses hurdled back are not defenses of still concealing faces from weeks-old infants or making 6 year olds eat lunch silently and wear masks while they learn to read, but this:
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Some are pure-style assertions that "these people are bad, dying is bad, COVID is not over, I am on the other team".

Others have gone full-blown connect-the-dots conspiracy, trying to uncover the mystery of why people care about young people's day-to-day experiences.
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What I have not seen from many in the past months is a full-throated defense of the specific policies that children (and babies) are being been subjected to.

Who's for it!? Anyone? Or are we all against it, but sure that some of us are bad people against it in the wrong way?
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Read 9 tweets
Feb 3, 2022
The pre-registration for the next phase of the Bangladesh mask trial (@Jabaluck etc) has been posted.

The good: it will probe a bias-resistant endpoint that should be much less dependent on subjective survey responses.

Two important criticisms follow:1/8
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05…
1) The new phase of the trial still doesn't have any placebo intervention (like, say, education only).

One of the things our re-analysis of their previous study showed is that staff and participants were subject to big differences in study behavior.
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arxiv.org/abs/2112.01296
The study found much larger effects on physical distancing than on COVID; in general, it seems likely that intervention villages are considerably more "COVID aware".

If we really care whether masks are actually helping, comparing, masks+education to education would make sense!
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Feb 1, 2022
In the pandemic's 1st year, failing to focus resources and attention on the oldest+most vulnerable in society meant young people faced excessive restrictions that were senseless from a public health perspective.

In the 2nd year, it meant inordinate levels of preventable death.
Commentators on here spend a lot of time talking about low-stakes controversial policies whose only merit is that they scratch a political itch.

Meanwhile the actual failure to vax and boost the oldest (and even LTC) populations goes largely unmentioned, except by "contrarians".
From the CDC:
cdc.gov/nhsn/covid19/l…

Vaccination rate among LTC residents: 87%
Booster rate *among vaccinated* LTC residents: leveling off at 67%

42% of LTC residents have fewer than 3 doses.

Look at the coverage maps.

A lot of "COVID-focused" states have <75% booster rates. ImageImageImageImage
Read 7 tweets
Feb 1, 2022
This article is remarkable.

As it discusses, the trials for a 2 dose vaccine in 6 mos-5 year olds failed. But now the FDA seems keen to just grant emergency use authorization anyways, while data from trials of a 3-dose regimen are still a ways out.

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washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/01…
The next thing to watch for will be mandates for under 5's, for a vaccine under emergency use authorization in a low risk population whose only trial failed.

Meanwhile the US has some of the lowest vaccination and booster rates among the most vulnerable populations.

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I think it's a mistake to miss the connection between these.

We have confused people about risk, needlessly politicized our response, and tried to distract from crucial policy failures among high risk groups with policies aimed at children and young people.

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