All the "there wouldn't be violence without cops!" people don't yet deserve to live in a civilized country. Send them someplace else and then they can come back when they're ready.
I think a lot of drastic things have to be done to change policing in this country, but the "abolish the police" children should not be a part of that discussion. They have nothing useful to add.
Some people are complete sociopaths when police commit violence, justifying it no matter what. Others are complete sociopaths when criminals commit violence so they can justify their “abolish police” nonsense. They’re basically the same sort of person.
We should separate those two groups out and let them have their own pretend discussion (though, again, they’re so much alike they’ll probably end up making out), and then rest of us can work on real solutions.
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