David Cameron to @IainDale: "I certainly don't apologise for stopping Gaddafi in his tracks, that saved lives"
The Libya NFZ is actually one of the few success stories of the Cameron-era, and it's good that he continues to defend it. open.spotify.com/episode/1FHdVW…
Cameron also points out complexity of the failure of Western post-intervention strategy when he explains that the Libyans themselves asked for the West to stay out of the country following the NFZ. Libya remains a post-intervention failure, not a failure of intervention.
Cameron moves on to Syria, says that he offered Ed Miliband everything he asked for before the lead up to the chemical weapons vote, including provision for a second vote before air strikes. "I think it was a piece of political opportunism, and deeply regretful"
Cameron places blame at Obama's feet for failing to get congressional approval for Syria intervention, failing to account for the fact that the US was now being asked to act unilaterally without the support of its closest allies.
Cameron does state that he does not necessarily believe intervention in 2013 would have changed matters much, which corroborates reports that his and Obama's intentions were never much larger than retaliatory surgical strikes.
Discussing the failure to respond to the "red line" Cameron says: "I thought that was a very bad decision for the world, because not only was that message heard in Damascus, but I think it was also heard in Beijing and Moscow and elsewhere"
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I think the extreme reaction to the Alaa Abd El-Fattah tweets is risible, but I will concede on this point & it’s a big one, there needs to be a frank conversation in Muslim and Arab communities about how Jewish people are talked about. It’s a major problem & we can’t ignore it.
I’m speaking as a British Arab and Muslim, the views frequently espoused in Britain by members of my own community routinely stray into violent rhetoric, racism and dehumanisation. And anyone challenging this seriously is often labelled as being “in league with” the “Zionists”.
I have been outspoken on this issue with regard to the British left before, but frankly the conversations I have heard in my lifetime among certain members of my community far surpasses that. This problem will not go away unless it is addressed & confronted.
Remembering when the UK's pro-Assad lobby mocked Cameron for saying there were at least 70,000 rebels on the ground in Syria, all the way back in 2015.
Another reminder that you absolutely don't have to listen to any of those people on anything ever.
Corbyn's officials briefing the press that there was "no military solution to the situation in Syria" and that striking a peace deal with Iran and Russia while maintaining the Assad regime was the only hope for "peace".
3.3 million Syrians have returned to their homes since the regime fell just over 12 months ago, the Assad regime enjoyed relative stability for 6 years and not even a fraction of that were willing to return to live under his rule.
Israel has demonstrated that it is very capable & indeed adept at neutralising key military objectives, anybody doubting this is fundamentally unserious, but it has no wider strategy for conflict management or achieving its war aims, which it seems incapable of even articulating.
In Gaza they have systematically degraded Hamas, but after more than 2 years of total war are still no closer to articulating what their endgame is. Clearly Ben Gvir et al are hoping to ethnically cleanse Gaza but all of their allies oppose this vehemently, and so indefinite war and occupation are the only things on the table at the moment.
In Lebanon they successfully decapitated Hezbollah, but are now reliant on the Lebanese authorities to dismantle Hezbollah because again they have no post-conflict strategy to deal with Lebanon.
Iran assassinated the man who was certain to again become the next Prime Minister of Lebanon in a car bomb in 2005, killing 21 other people, just to maintain control over Lebanon so it could remain as a permanent missile silo for Tehran and its proxies.
They slaughtered tens of thousands of Iraqi and Syrian men, women and children just to keep the land route for weaponry open, so they could continue to supply the missile bases on Israel’s borders.
They have invested billions in this enterprise, they depopulated half of Syria.
After all of this bloodshed, if you still think this war is unprovoked, you’re shilling for a junta with at least as much blood on its hands as any regime in the 21st century.
Actions have consequences, Iran has just outsourced those consequences to other states for 40 years.
This is just an incredibly ignorant reading of the situation in Syria. If a proscribed paramilitary organisation wins a civil war, disarms, renounces terrorism, and bans terrorist activity on the territory it now governs, it becomes perfectly possible to become deproscribed.
There is no deproscription without doing the whole renouncing terrorism thing though, and pretending otherwise is just the most pathetic kind of argument because it doesn’t hold up in comparison with other groups that have no intention of doing any of the above.
Wars end, and postbellum political reconciliation and normalisation is the norm, not the aberration. Treating this like it is anything other than a normal process that follows the end of any major conflict just smacks of a total lack of literacy on this subject.
In the last decade the dictatorship governing the United Arab Emirates has poured billions of dollars into backing the Assad regime in Syria, the warlord Khalifa Haftar in Libya and the genocidal RSF militia in Sudan, only to watch all 3 lose their civil wars in slow motion.
Besides Iran, there is no regime in the Middle East more dedicated to destabilising the region and financing the industrial scale slaughter of civilians, Iran however does not enjoy the luxury of alliances and lucrative business partnerships with western liberal democracies.
If you want to start seeing the stabilisation of the Middle East, step one is imposing economic costs on the blood soaked monarchy in the Gulf incentivising destabilisation, tyranny and conflict.