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Sep 20, 2020 8 tweets 3 min read Read on X
The ripple effect of the Yan report that as I said before has done more to discredit the lab origins hypothesis than all of the peer-reviewed natural origins papers combined. What is new from this article is the interview of Dr Fauci, who seems to think lab origins are possible..
.. but he asks does it matter whether it’s from a lab if the virus was not deliberately mutated, ie was taken from nature?

I think it does matter, if lab activities have a high risk of resulting in outbreaks, and would have implications for future pathogen sampling expeditions.
Let’s say a future expedition to Myanmar, Laos or Vietnam finds a virus that is even more closely related to SARS2 than RaTG13. It still doesn’t answer the question: how did that virus break out in Wuhan city, 1000s of miles away. Was it wildlife trade, travel, or lab activities?
By producing such a fantastical lab origins scenario, Yan has (unintentionally) provided a straw man for natural origins proponents to tell the media that lab origins are conspiracies theories - without qualifying that they are unable to rule out lab escape of a natural virus.
For example, in this case of an outbreak stemming from a vaccine factory leak, it is irrelevant whether the pathogen had been deliberately mutated. What matters is finding and correcting the leak to stop more people from being infected. cnn.com/2020/09/17/asi…
The media/scientists have to balance not panicking the public with being honest about what you know or don’t know. I’m worried that this could signal to rogue actors that as long as they use unpublished viruses in GOF work, no one can/will call them out. onezero.medium.com/how-do-we-know…
It could incentivize research groups around the world to become even less transparent and accountable for the pathogens they’re sampling. So that, in the case of lab escape, you couldn’t be held responsible as people don’t know about your private collection of natural viruses.
Just noticed that the exclusive Dr. Fauci interview featured in the September @NatGeo article is actually from May of this year. Recommend that the video caption at least state the date of the interview. COVID expert opinions can change a lot in 4 months.

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May 2
Ralph Baric's interview with @covidselect reveals he was on the Feb 1, 2020 phone call with Farrar, Fauci, Collins and the Proximal Origin authors.

Did he reveal his plans from 2018 with the Wuhan Institute of Virology to put furin cleavage sites into SARS-like viruses?

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@COVIDSelect Baric said he forgot about the Defuse proposal & did not mention it at the Feb 1 call.

I believe Baric sharing Defuse would've prevented the publication of Proximal Origin and the use of it to dismiss a lab #OriginOfCovid in US gov and to the public. Image
@COVIDSelect Baric also could've told them at the Feb 1 meeting that novel SARS-like viruses were being used in infection experiments at BSL2 at the Wuhan Institute of Virology aka the Wild West according to Jeremy Farrar.
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May 1
Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance testified he didn't know Wuhan Institute of Virology bred 🦇, studied pangolin samples, engineered viruses without leaving a trace, and continued to collect viruses after 2015.

So how does he know they didn't cause Covid?
Daszak said he didn't know if WIV had started experiments described in the Defuse proposal and 🚨had not even asked them🚨.

He only had virus sequences from samples collected up to 2015. He believed that the WIV would've shared more sequences from 2016-2019 if they had them.
Reminder: EcoHealth Alliance still has not shared the sequences for the WIV's 220 SARS-CoV-1-like viruses (2022 interview) or 180 unique SARS-like viruses in their prior work not yet characterized for spillover potential (2018 proposal).
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Those dismissing a lab #OriginOfCovid have had to make numerous concessions over the past 4 years.

We now know Wuhan scientists conducted risky experiments with novel SARS-like viruses at low biosafety & planned in 2018 to create viruses with the traits of the Covid-19 virus.
We also know the data on early cases & Huanan market shared by Chinese scientists do not shed light on #OriginOfCovid

Proponents of natural origin continue to argue that it is the totality of evidence that supports their hypothesis but this could be said for lab origin as well.
The latest defense for a natural #OriginOfCovid is that, if a lab leak had occurred, the Wuhan scientists would have acted all suspicious and essentially given the game away, thereby putting themselves, their colleagues & their families in immediate and deadly peril.
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Apr 18
Freedom of speech is important in academia & science but difficult to navigate when it comes to politicized topics.

With #OriginOfCovid, some scientists, journals & reporters have competing interests & may be blamed if research they conducted, funded or glorified caused Covid.
On Tuesday’s hearing, chief editor of Science said the scientific community contributed to politicization of Covid & it was wrong to paint 'lab leak' as a conspiracy theory.

There was widespread consensus, Democrat or Republican, that #OriginOfCovid remains unresolved.
Several representatives asked for forward-facing solutions but none were presented. Today, the media continues to hang onto mistakes & politics of the past.

When confronted, many scientists or journalists who misled their peers & the public on #OriginOfCovid make no apologies.
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The @BulletinAtomic Pathogens Project successfully unified experts from opposing ends of #OriginOfCovid, representing diverse disciplines & cultures.

The outcome was a set of practical and high impact recommendations that policymakers are taking note of.
thebulletin.org/2024/04/how-to…
@BulletinAtomic Please see this thread for highlights from the report:
@BulletinAtomic The point of assembling an international task force of experts with truly different view points on #OriginOfCovid and what qualifies as risky research was so that the consensus recommendations would be robust to attacks from angry people on both sides of this issue.
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Apr 11
Leaders of scientific funding agencies said Proximal Origin was a nice job. According to the lead author of Proximal Origin, Farrar, Fauci & Collins had advised and led them as they wrote the letter.

So why won't @NatureMedicine put these leaders in the acknowledgements?
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The only scientist acknowledged in Proximal Origin arguably contributed much less than these 3 leaders.

He wasn't even at the Feb 1 meeting organized by Farrar where #OriginOfCovid was hotly debated and Proximal Origin was initiated.
Beyond what @Bryce_Nickels pointed out in his letter to @NatureMedicine & International Committee of Medical Journal Editors, the Proximal Origin authors failed to point out that their funder(s) had been involved in the work.
nature.com/nature-portfol…

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