Top takeaways from @Drlipid's new podcast with @PeterAttiaMD

00:07 recent evidence has emphasized:

1) atherogenic lipoproteins are the crux of ASCVD

2) effect of TGs on lipoprotein concentration/function

3) diminishing relevance of HDL-C

4) Lp(a)

peterattiamd.com/tomdayspring6/
00:32 brain cholesterol is separate from plasma; most cholesterol in the body is inside cells, not in bloodstream; most cholesterol in blood is in RBCs, not lipoproteins ▶️ so reducing serum cholesterol has little to no effect on cellular cholesterol requirements
00:36 it's not cholesterol in the arterial wall that poses a problem, it's trafficked cholesterol inside lipoproteins (digested by macrophages)
00:41 most people with low HDL-C have high ApoB. this may underlie the positive association btw HDL-C and CVD seen in observational studies
00:42 trials (via diff techniques and mechanisms) have consistently shown a neutral (at best) or detrimental (at worst) effect of raising HDL-C on CV risk

HDL particles may/probably play a role; HDL-C is a 'useless metric'
00:59 OxPL/ApoB measures oxidized phospholipids in apoB particles (predominantly on lp(a)) and may be an additional risk marker, particularly in those with high lp(a)
01:08 antisense oligonucleotides (ASO) in development for elevated lp(a)

01:09 statins can (in some people) raise lp(a), but net effect (via lowering of overall LDLs) is still likely positive

1:10 PCSK9is can lower lp(a) in addition to lowering LDL/LDL-c
TG content of lipoproteins (including LDLs) can determine particle half-life, structure and function
LDL-C is a reasonable yet imperfect metric of CV risk; nonHDL-C is a bit better; but ultimately risk tracks with ApoB (LDL-C and nonHDL-C can be misleading in discordant patients)
bempedoic acid (approved 2020) is a non-statin, cholesterol lowering drug that inhibits the cholesterol synthesis pathway (upstream of HMGCoA reductase, the target of statins)
01:35 bempedoic acid is hepato-selective and doesn't enter the myocyte, avoiding (or at least reducing) the muscle pain secondary effect of statins
01:40 TGs supported by both pharma and mendelian rando as important metric. can be lowered with fibrates or omega 3s (EPA/DHA, high doses required, >2g/d, max=4g, ≤1g likely does nothing)

fibrates can also lower apoB

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Sep 29, 2024
fascinating new mendelian randomization study quantifies risk associated with triglyceride-rich lipoproteins (VLDLs etc) & their remnants

concludes ~4x more atherogenic particle for particle than LDL particles (maybe even more)

interesting implications
jacc.org/doi/abs/10.101…
this indicates that 2 populations with the same ApoB level would have different risk depending on what type of ApoB particles are elevated (LDLs? VLDLs? both?)

some contrary views presented by Sniderman:
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"does this mean LDL doesnt matter?"

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“Are eggs good or bad?”

A fascinating recent study looked at this perennial question.

HT @TheBhupiThakur


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The Twinkie diet

In 2010, a nutrition Professor set up an experiment

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his LDL-C dropped 20%. his triglycerides, 39%

his anecdote illustrates a couple points:

▶️we can lose weight on almost any type of food, as long as we cut calories enough
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quick 🧵 using TC/HDL-c as example
to make the math easier let´say my HDL-c is 40mg/dL and my total cholesterol (TC) is 200

That’s a TC/HDL-c ratio of 5
Hypothetically, if my HDL-c doubles (and everything else stays constant), my HDL-c is now 80 and my TC is 240 (remember, TC is the sum of all serum cholesterol including HDL-c)

Now my ratio is 3
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Does high ApoB still raise risk if I´m “metabolically healthy”?

The evidence indicates it DOES.

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The idea that cholesterol level is completely irrelevant has largely subsided.

As the public is exposed to more scientific evidence, it has become increasingly obvious that blanket denial is not realistic.

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a misunderstanding that refuses to die

we know with a very high degree of certainty that this idea is *wrong*

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
thelancet.com/action/showPdf…
academic.oup.com/ije/article/44…
thelancet.com/journals/lanhl…
2) even the authors of some of the U curve studies have alerted (in no uncertain terms) against concluding causality from those associations

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