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I may be proven wrong, but I think the debates will be a fact-checking fail. Nothing like a real time check on Trump's firehose of falsehood will unfold. At best we'll see symbolic pushback on one or two lies, and his reaction will introduce more lies. 1/
Some reasons I think that: the sheer volume of lies Trump is able to broadcast in a single answer to question about, say, mail-in voting; the blowback from his defenders that each moderator knows is coming if they try it; the asymmetry factor, meaning— cjr.org/political_pres… 2/
— it will feel like bias if Trump is corrected a lot and Biden is not for lack of cause; the manifest need to move on; the weak precedent set by White House correspondents on live fact-checking (true, the debates are a different setting, but even so...) cnn.com/2020/08/20/pol… 3/
Also: "You are not the story" is a unanimous belief among Washington journalists. And that sounds totally right— until you try to picture what would happen in any forceful attempt to keep this man from lying his way through the debate: you would become the story. Won't happen. 4/
Then there's what's known as Brandolini's law. Add the pressures of live TV and extreme polarization to this maxim, and the moderator's escape route is clear: let @ddale8 and @GlennKesslerWP handle it after the debate. It's on Biden to respond during. 5/
"We don't expect Chris [Wallace] or our other moderators to be fact-checkers," said Frank Fahrenkopf, co-chair of the Commission that organizes the debates. "The minute the TV is off, there are going to be plenty of fact-checkers."
cnn.com/videos/media/2… 6/
"The moderator should be seen little and heard even less. It is up to the candidates to ask the follow-up questions and challenge one another... I don’t consider that being passive, I consider it being effective." —Jim Lehrer after he did a 2012 debate. politico.com/story/2012/10/… 7/
Well, there it is. Chris Wallace is the moderator of Tuesday's debate. “My job is to be as invisible as possible." He has called fact-checking by the moderator "a step too far.'" nytimes.com/2020/09/28/bus…
The moderator is a symbolic figure no matter how active or passive. If Chris Wallace thinks his job is "to be as invisible as possible," then instead of the proposition that there are some limits and some facts, he will stand for "everything is permitted and nothing is true." 9/
"You can't be fact checking them. It's not the job of the candidate to be fact checking them."

That is what Karine Jean-Pierre, Chief of Staff to Kamala Harris, said on David Plouffe's podcast about the prospect of debating Pence and Trump. stitcher.com/podcast/campai… (29:34) 10/
Let's review the bidding. Co-chair of the debate commission says it's not the role of the moderator to fact check. Moderator of the first debate says: not my job to fact check. And a key aide to Biden/Harris says it's not the candidate's job to fact check, either. Encouraged? 11/

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Feb 25
"Fewer grievances, more policy: Trump aides and allies push for a post-South Carolina 'pivot.'"

By Matt Dixon, Kristen Welker, Jonathan Allen, Vaughn Hillyard, Garrett Haake and Carol E. Lee.



NBC has been featuring this. I have some comments

[Thread]nbcnews.com/politics/donal…
Thanks for filing this report on time last night.

As your post-publication editor, I have a few questions. You're all experienced professionals so I assume you have good reasons for every call you made here. I just want know what they are. Ready?

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* Why did it take six people to make this?

* So Trump’s staff want him to pivot to the general election and rely less on personal grievances. Any reason to think that he is capable of — or perhaps newly interested in — a reduction in personal invective? Has he changed?

3/
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Jan 30
News! (And there's time for this to become a wave.) Public radio in Vermont announced it will dial back the horse race and take a 'citizens agenda' approach to covering the 2024 election. 1/vermontpublic.org/local-news/202…
In the 'citizens agenda' model, election coverage begins when you ask the public you serve a simple question: what do you want the candidates to be discussing as they compete for votes? Then you build your coverage around their priority list, rather than "strategy" and polls. 2/ Image
Replacing the horse race with the citizens agenda model for election year journalism is a change I have been writing about and arguing for since the 1990s. So if I seem excited, maybe a little too excited... that's why.

3/ @JenniferBrandel @vermontpublicpressthink.org/2018/11/electi…
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Jan 28
Last week CNN asked me how I explain the downturn in the news industry: big layoffs, scant investment, no recovery in sight.

A list of factors is not an explanation, I said. But that is what I have.

So here's my thread. None of it should be news to people in the business. 0/
Factors converging on the news industry to hollow it out, weaken the product, scare investors, and threaten jobs:

1/ With a few exceptions, the search for a stable business model has been unsuccessful, in part because the problem changes faster than R & D in the news business.
2/ The rich guy rescue plan rarely works. The rescuer typically underestimates how hard it is to find money in news and keep quality reasonably high. When that is made clear, rich guy's commitment starts faltering. And the hedge funds lie in wait. See San-Diego Union Tribune.
Read 14 tweets
Jan 13
Long and complex story. Begins near the start of the 20th century, with the slow professionalization of journalism, which had been a working class trade.

"Objectivity" was a kind of peace treaty among publishers, advertisers and journalists. Each got something they wanted... 1/
The owners wanted a work force that wasn't too political or opinionated, so as to make the advertisers comfortable. The advertisers wanted to offend no one who might buy their products. The journalists wanted cultural status and freedom from the owners or advertisers meddling. 2/
The origins of this deal faded. It became "just good journalism." Both-sides is the original objectivity treaty remade into a work routine, an efficient form that grabs "above it all" status for journalists, while baby-sitting advertisers, and letting publishers draw a line. 3/
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Oct 22, 2023
I read every word of this long (VERY long) profile of Jim Jordan by the Washington Post.

"Relentless Wrestler" is the title. [gift link]

As the pages wore on, their central conceit began to seem thinner and thinner, which led to this short thread. 1/wapo.st/47248Fy
By conceit I mean a device for organizing the profile that lifts it beyond a series of anecdotes, and "to be sure" paragraphs.

Here the device is unmistakable: Jordan today is the same guy he was as a championship wrestler: relentless, disciplined, "old school"— and a winner. 2/
There's a LOT about the sport of wrestling in the article, which must have made sense to the authors on two levels: wrestling shaped Jim Jordan into the "fighter" he is today, and it's where the skeletons in his closet are— his nearness to a sexual abuse scandal at Ohio State. 3/
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Oct 12, 2023
"Not the odds, but the stakes."

That's been my shorthand for the principle that could most improve election coverage in 2024. Not "who's going to win?" but the consequences for our democracy. Not the odds but the stakes.

Today something happened with this idea. THREAD. 1/
"We’re demoting the horse race and elevating constituent interests."

That's the headline on today's announcement from the editor of Colorado Newsline, Quentin Young.



His newsroom is officially putting "not the odds, but the stakes" into practice. 2/coloradonewsline.com/2023/10/12/wer…
"High-value election coverage revolves around families, individuals and every affected resident," Young writes.

"Low-value election coverage clings to the question of who’s going to win."

And just like that, the horse race is not abandoned but demoted— as it should be. 3/
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