What a find! 2 lines of Arabic poetry - often cited in Abbasid-era belles lettres as being pre-Islamic and 𝐶ℎ𝑟𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑎𝑛 - found north of Mt. Arafat near Mecca. It's dated (!) by the inscriber, Abū Jaʿfar ibn Ḥasan al-Hāshimī, to 98 A.H. (716-17 C.E.). Here's what it says..
1) The turning of Sol effaces the new / afnā l-jadīda taqallub aš-šamsī 2) as does its rising where he passed not the night / wa-ṭulūʿuhā min hayṯu lā tamsī 3) Its rising is white, brilliant and pure / ṭulūʿuhā bayḍāʾu ṣāfiyatun
4) Its setting yellow as Yemeni 𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑠 / ġurūbuhā ṣafrāʾu ka-l-warsī
The word 𝑤𝑎𝑟𝑠 = yellow-dye made from a perennial plant, Memecylon tinctorium, cultivated in Yemen. This line has many attestations (albeit w/ slightly different wordings) in Abbasid literature ...
Here is a variant of the poem cited by in Ibn Abī l-Dunyā’s (d. 894 CE) 𝐾. 𝑎𝑙-𝑍𝑢ℎ𝑑 (Eng. On Asecticism) from the Meccan ḥadīth-scholar Sufyān ibn ʿUyaynah from a Coptic/Egyptian Christian who attributes to “a priest (𝑞𝑖𝑠𝑠) of Najrān”
Another citation of the above verses (in variant form) from 𝐾. 𝑎𝑙-𝐻̣𝑎𝑦𝑎𝑤𝑎̄𝑛 (Eng. On Animals) of al-Jāḥiẓ (d. 869 CE)--he likewise attributes the lines to an unnamed Christian Arab, “the bishop (𝑢𝑠𝑞𝑢𝑓<Gk. ἐπίσκοπος) of Najrān
The earliest attestations are from the 𝐾. 𝑎𝑙-𝑇𝑖̄𝑗𝑎̄𝑛 𝑓𝑖̄ 𝑚𝑢𝑙𝑢̄𝑘 𝐻̣𝑖𝑚𝑦𝑎𝑟 of Ibn Hishām al-Ḥimyarī (d. 833 CE), a work which records lore about the pre-Islamic Yemenite kings. It allegedly contains an early work from the Umayyad period ...
ʿAbīd ibn Sharyah’s dialogue with Muʿāwiyah ibn Abī Sufyān about the kings of Yemen. It’s not very likely that it's authentic, but Ibn Hishām’s version of the book contains an attestation to the verse, where it’s attributed to Tubbaʿ al-Aqran. BUT ...
Ibn Hishām’s 𝑇𝑖̄𝑗𝑎̄𝑛 also includes a book of the Yemeni scholar Wahb ibn Munabbih (d. 732): K. al-Mulūk al-mutawwajah min Ḥimyar. Wahb’s book attributes the lines to Dhū l-Qarnayn (!), whom he does *not* identify with Alexander the Great, and provides the FULL poem.
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This is not the original quote of Hitler AFAIK, but the original does have an interesting history behind , and it's key for understanding the Battle of Poitiers in modern Western historical imaginary ...
Hitler’s "Tabletalk" (Tischgespräche) – ranting monologues given at the Führer headquarters from 1941-44 – were recorded and transcribed, and this is the source of such statements. In a monologue from 28 Aug 1942, he bemoans Charles Martel’s victory at Poitiers in 732 and ...
Chrisianity's hold over Europe. He then fantasizes about how Islam would have enabled the German race to conquer and subjugate the world. The English translation by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens of 1953 appeared long before the German edition, ed. by W. Jochmann in 1980.
As noted by @IraniRoxanna, Khamenei is quoting one of the more misogynist passages from Nahj al-balāġah here, in Arabic: al-marʾah rayḥānah wa-laysat bi-qahramānah.
Personally, I don’t think ʿAlī actually uttered these words...
Why?
[1] It's strange forʿAlī to employ a word like qahramānah, a word borrowed into Arabic from Persian typically used in the Abbasid era to referred to an enslaved stewardess of a harem.
[2] The saying is attributed to other, later figures:
The one worth considering most seriously is Ibn al-Muqaffaʿ, one of the fathers of Arabic literary prose. He’s a key figure for the transmission of Persian and Indian gnomologia into Arabic literature. See the excerpt from Ibn Qutaybah’s ʿUyūn al-aḫbār below.
Reading a new essay by Devin Stewart, "Ignoring the Bible in Qur’anic Studies Scholarship of the Late Twentieth Century" (2024). It's on the history of qur'anic studies scholarship in the 20th century and the place of biblical literatere therein. Some thoughts ...
Really it's an autopsy of what went wrong why the topic stagnated in qur'anic studies after WW2. He gives this example of Watt's revisions of Bell's Intro to the Qur'an as primary example of what changed. The language of the ToC speaks volumes. scienceopen.com/hosted-documen…
I think people are too harsh on Watt, but his approach does strike me as minimizing and even censoring the rigorist, comparativist approach of older orientalist philology in favor of practicing scholarship as a way of making nice: For Watt (an Anglican priest) ...
Ehrman's right ofc, and the axiom isn't "hidden"
The Qur'an is a human text: it's written in a human language and as such ought to be analyzed as a product of humanity.
Ratifying a fideist "special pleading fallacy" as the foundation of your hermeneutic is against free inquiry
Truth be told, the aims of HCM are very modest--a measured, rationalistic approach to assessing the plausibility of our historical knowledge and revising it using empircal tools and methods. Most of the frustrations with it are, as you can see on display in the replies, ...
that it does not bow to or support grand claims about metaphysics or apodictic declarations about god, which its ardent detractors want to impose on the rest of us.
But seriously consider -- what new things have those infallible™ types told us about the ancient world ...
Epigraphy can be dangerous! A quick tall tale from the Muʿjam al-buldān of Yāqūt al-Ḥamawī (d. 1229) about how an epigraphic discovery in Palmyra led to fall of the Umayyad caliphate…
The story is told by a grandson of Khālid al-Qasrī named Ismāʿīl. He recounts ...
how he accompanied the last Umayyad caliph Marwān II to defeat the rival claimant, Sulaymān ibn Hishām. He says:
“I was with Marwān, the last of the Umayyad tyrants, when he destroyed the walls of Palmyra. They rebelled against him, and he slaughtered them...
He sent the cavalry every which way to trample their corpses; the viscera of their flesh and bones splattered all over the horses’ hooves. He then razed the city walls. The demolition revealed to him a mighty trench. They removed a boulder from it and, lo, they found ...
A wonderful anecdote from Abū Ḥayyān al-Tawḥīdī’s al-Imtāʿ wa-l-muʾānasah:
An agonistic/skeptic (mutaḥayyir) from 10th-century Sijistān was, “What leads you to still hold to the validity of your faith?” And he replies:
“A special quality nothing else has:...
I was born and reared in it. I imbibed its sweetness and grew fond of the customs of its adherents. I’d compare myself to a man who entered a lodge seeking shade from heaven’s brightness for an hour or so of daylight. The lodger brought him to one of its rooms without knowing...
or considering whether it was in good shape. All of a sudden a cloud appeared and a mighty downpour came. The room began to leak. He looked at the other rooms in the lodge but saw they too leaked; he even saw the courtyard of the building turned to muck.
So he decided to stay ...