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Sep 27, 2020 8 tweets 2 min read Read on X
"A great business at a fair price is superior to a fair business at a great price." --Charlie Munger

Let's walk through the mathematical proof of why Charlie is right, and also explore why this might be very dangerous advice. 😵 #sacrilege
Company A: earns $1/share, growing earnings at 20%, selling for 20x P/E.
We invest $100k to buy 5k shares.

Company B: earns $1/share, growing earnings at 8%, selling for 10x P/E.
We invest $100k to buy 10k shares.
After 10 years, Charlie is proven right.

An investment in Company A turns into $405k compared to $216k for Company B.

Low P/E "value investing" is dead!

... but what if we're a little wrong about the business?
What if starting in Year 5, the competition picks up, or success breeds a little complacency?

Let's change the earnings growth rate for Years 5-10 for Company A to a still healthy 8%.

Unfortunately, a lower growth rate invites a lower multiple, so let's lower that to 12x.
Company B keeps chugging along, growing earnings by 8%. As a reward for their consistency, they get a 12x multiple in Years 5-10.

An investment in Company A now gives us $167k while Company B grows to $259k.

Wait, I thought "value" investing was dead?
The moral of this story is you need to be an exceptional business analyst (like Munger), and be right about the quality of the business, to pay exceptional prices.

You have less margin for error with high starting prices.

You have to earn the right to pay that high multiple.
That's why Buffett can say, "price is my due diligence."

Or maybe we reduce this even further for the Robinhood crowd:
You can buy more shares with a lower starting price. 😀
Sorry, meant 15% earnings growth for Company A, as in the spreadsheet. 🤡

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A recent survey of US retail investors showed they expect long-term equity returns to be 17.5% per year.

Let's walk through what it would take to get there.

The price of the S&P 500 today is ~4400.
EPS are at 131.5.

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EPS has grown at 2.3% CAGR for the last 10 years. (Peaked in Dec '19 at 147.5, btw)

Assume EPS grew at the same 2.3% per year for the next 10 years: 2031 EPS = 165.

In order to get 17.5% per year over the next decade, the price would have to 5x, going to 22,126.

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