Jake Chervinsky Profile picture
Sep 28, 2020 14 tweets 4 min read Read on X
1/ Great question.

The short answer (not legal advice) is the money probably gets bailed-in just like other deposits at the failed bank & no special dynamics protect stablecoin holders, afaik.

The longer answer requires looking at the relationships between all the parties . . .
2/ First, you have the stablecoin issuer & the bank custodying its reserve; is there anything special here to protect against a bail-in?

Second, you have the stablecoin issuer & the stablecoin holders; is there anything special here to give holders recourse in case of a bail-in?
3/ The best place I can think of to look for insight on these questions is in the terms, conditions, & disclosures of the issuers' whitepapers, user agreements, & attestations (links at end of thread).
4/ The issuers' user agreements say dollars are:

- "held by Circle with its U.S. banking partners in segregated accounts, on behalf of, and for the benefit of, Users" (USDC)

- "deposited either in US insured depository banks or used to purchase US treasury bonds" (PAX)
5/ There's no way to be sure without seeing the contracts between the issuers & their banks, but these don't sound like special relationships conveying unusual privileges or protections.

If that's true, then issuers could be treated like any other depositor in case of a bail-in.
6/ The issuers' user agreements seem to recognize this fact by transferring the risk of a bank failure & bail-in to the stablecoin holders.

Both outline risk factors & disclosures acknowledging (in varying degrees of detail & precision) the chance of loss due to bank failures.
7/ For example, both disclose:

- lack of deposit insurance
- risk of legislative or regulatory changes affecting value

And PAX explicitly says:

- "Any bond or trust account we may hold for the benefit of members may not be sufficient to cover all losses incurred by members."
8/ Both also have provisions to protect them against claims by holders (& others) in case of loss:

- disclaimers of express & implied warranties
- limitation of liability clauses
- force majeure clauses

Plus the usual boilerplate on indemnification, release, arbitration, etc.
9/ Perhaps most on-point is PAX's force majeure clause.

It explicitly says PAX will not "be liable for our failure to perform any obligations under this Agreement due to events beyond our control" including "bank failures[.]"

So, there's that.
10/ To be fair, it would be good legal practice for the issuers to limit liability this way even if they do have protection against bail-ins.

But they're clearly not making any promises of protection like that, & they're armed & ready to leave holders with the bag if it happens.
11/ All this depends on commercial & political considerations too.

Maybe banks or policymakers find ways to protect issuers if failing to do so has business or systemic risks.

But then issuers might be "too big to fail," opening them up to extraordinary new regulatory burdens.
12/ It also depends on the nightmare of litigation & dispute resolution that would result from a bail-in.

It's impossible to predict whether the issuers might still have valid claims against the banks, or the holders against the issuers, or both against third parties, etc.
13/ But in short (& not meant as legal advice) I think it's fair to assume stablecoin holders bear the risk of loss in case of bank failures & bail-ins.

Whether stablecoin value would actually fall is another issue. After all, USDT was 74% backed by dollars & has done just fine.
14/ Links:

USDC Whitepaper: centre.io/pdfs/centre-wh…
USDC User Agreement: support.usdc.circle.com/hc/en-us/artic…
USDC Attestations: centre.io/usdc-transpare…

PAX Whitepaper: paxos.com/wp-content/upl…
PAX Terms & Conditions: paxos.com/general-terms-…
PAX Attestations: paxos.com/attestations/

[end]

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Jake Chervinsky

Jake Chervinsky Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @jchervinsky

Sep 30
1/ As U.S. regulators continue their war on crypto, many founders are thinking about geofencing as a compliance strategy.

It can work, but only if it's done right.

That’s why @dbarabander and I wrote this Practical Guide to Geofencing:
variant.fund/articles/pract…
2/ Our guide explains what you (and your counsel) need to know about geofencing.

Geofencing means stopping people in a certain "geography" from accessing a product by creating a virtual “fence” around it.

We start by explaining when it's useful as a compliance strategy.
3/ Geofencing is essentially a “when all else fails” fallback option when a company can’t:

- satisfy applicable compliance obligations, like registration, disclosures, KYC, etc.; or

- design the product in such a way that no compliance obligations apply in the first place.
Read 11 tweets
Aug 29, 2023
1/ Grayscale's victory over the SEC is *massive.*

It's very rare for a federal circuit court to find that an agency has violated the APA by acting arbitrarily and capriciously.

The DC Circuit just delivered a huge embarrassment for the SEC.

But the ETF isn't approved yet 🧵
2/ The DC Circuit soundly rejected the SEC's view that Grayscale's ETF proposal was not "designed to prevent fraudulent and manipulative acts and practices."

The SEC has spent a full decade denying spot bitcoin ETF proposals under this reasoning. That era has now come to an end.
3/ But the court didn't order the SEC to approve Grayscale's ETF proposal. It just said the SEC's analysis on the "fraud and manipulation" issue was wrong.

Now, the SEC has to go back and review Grayscale's proposal again, with the court's ruling in mind.

What will the SEC do?
Read 8 tweets
Jun 29, 2023
1/ SEC Chair Gary Gensler has wrongly prejudged that all digital assets are securities.

As a result, federal law requires that he recuse himself from all enforcement decisions related to digital assets.

@MTCoppel and I wrote a paper explaining why 👇
theblockchainassociation.org/chair-gensler-…
2/ Every SEC enforcement action must follow the “Wells process.”

In that process, the SEC Commissioners are meant to act as neutral arbiters, impartially weighing the evidence and arguments presented by SEC staff (the prosecutors) and the enforcement target (the defendant).
3/ When it comes to digital assets, Chair Gensler is far from a neutral arbiter.

Since his appointment, he has repeatedly stated his view that all digital assets other than bitcoin are securities, end of story.

We list many of these statements in our paper.
Read 10 tweets
Mar 16, 2023
1/ Today, @BlockchainAssn sent FOIA requests to the Fed, FDIC, and OCC, demanding information about the unlawful debanking of crypto companies.

We are also collecting evidence of debanking. Share your story with us:

debanked@theblockchainassociation.org

Here's the situation 🧵
2/ There are troubling reports of crypto companies having their bank accounts closed, often with no notice and no explanation. They've struggled to open new accounts too.

This disturbing trend suggests that regulators are trying to cut crypto entirely out of the banking system.
3/ These reports are especially concerning this month after the failures of Silvergate, Silicon Valley Bank, and Signature Bank.

Those banks had many crypto companies as customers, who are now rushing to open new accounts elsewhere to make payroll and stay in business.
Read 21 tweets
Mar 9, 2023
1/ Today, @KMSmithDC and I sent a letter to Congress from @BlockchainAssn urging prompt action on stablecoin legislation.

There is already bipartisan, bicameral support for new laws on stablecoins. The US is falling behind on crypto. It's time to act.
theblockchainassociation.org/blockchain-ass…
2/ In the letter, we explain what stablecoins are and why they represent such a categorical improvement on legacy payment infrastructure.

We also explain how important stablecoins are for the US dollar's status as global reserve currency, given China's focus on the digital yuan.
3/ We also outline five fundamental principles that are crucial for good stablecoin legislation.

First: Congress should focus on "custodial" stablecoins, meaning those issued and redeemed by firms holding assets backing the stablecoins in a bank or other financial institution.
Read 8 tweets
Feb 15, 2023
Today, the SEC proposed changes to the investment adviser custody rule that seem designed to prohibit US firms from investing in US crypto companies.

This proposal would flagrantly violate the SEC's mission by making investors *less* safe and by *discouraging* capital formation.
Commissioner Uyeda explains:

"This approach to custody appears to mask a policy decision to block access to crypto as an asset class. It deviates from the Commission’s long-standing position of neutrality on the merits of investments."
sec.gov/news/statement…
Commissioner Peirce writes sharply, as always:

"[T]he sweeping 'just about every crypto asset is a security' statements also seem to be part of a broader strategy of wishing complete jurisdiction over crypto into existence."
sec.gov/news/statement…
Read 5 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us!

:(