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Sep 29, 2020 11 tweets 3 min read Read on X
A deep dive into polling in 2020 v. 2016 by @Nate_Cohn of @nytimes. The big news today: Even if this year’s polls are as bad as the 2016 state polls, Joe Biden has enough of a lead to win.
Make it so, Democrats.

Five weeks to election day.

Many states are already voting.

Let’s keep working hard!

#BlueTsunami2020
“Of course, the polls won’t be exactly as wrong as they were in 2016. They could understate support for Donald Trump by an even greater degree. But there are good reasons to believe that many causes of 2016’s poll misfire are less likely this time around:
“More pollsters now weight by education, which ensures that voters without a college degree make up an appropriate share of the sample. Many state polls had far too many college graduates four years ago, leading them to underestimate Mr. Trump.
“There are far fewer undecided voters, who ultimately broke toward Mr. Trump across the Upper Midwest. A similar late break among undecided voters this time would be less consequential.
“A more stable race. Our estimate of the polling error in 2016 is a little unfair to pollsters: We’re looking at the average error over the final three weeks of the race.
“That includes polls taken after the ‘Access Hollywood’ tape and before the Comey letter. Those polls showed Mrs. Clinton with a commanding lead. The final polls were more accurate, if still biased toward Mrs. Clinton.
“This time it’s probably less likely that the polls will swing greatly over the last few weeks of the race. After all, they’ve been far more stable over the last few months than they were at any point in 2016.
“That doesn’t mean that we’re immune to another misfire. Indeed, most polling misses happen precisely because the causes can’t be anticipated.
“That’s why our tables on this page also include the polling miss from 2012, when surveys underestimated President Obama. But it also means there’s no reason the polls couldn’t be off by even more than they were four years ago.”
@nytimes updates this report daily. You can find the data and analysis here: nytimes.com/live/2020/pres…

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Oct 25
If you’re having heartburn today about polling & punditry, this thread should buck you up.

“I did a rough calculation of national polls released since Monday, October 14th:

•Independent Polls - Harris +2.7
•Right-aligned polls - Trump +1”

hopiumchronicles.com/p/the-vps-to-d…
“Right-aligned polls ran 3-4 points more Republican than the independent polls in 2022, and are doing so again this time.
“These polls created a mirage of right-ward movement, a red wave, and are doing so again. Do not be fooled, people, and remember - they would only be dropping all these polls if they thought they were losing the election.
Read 16 tweets
Sep 30
“Something remarkable and unprecedented is about to happen in America. According to the main postcard groups, 80 million handwritten postcards are going to be flying into the battlegrounds and doing their part for our democracy, for our freedoms and our future.” hopiumchronicles.com/p/80-million-p…
“Let us mark this important milestone, say a little prayer, grab a glass of wine for so many of you have worked so hard for this moment.
“It is here now, the election is here now, and these postcards that start getting mailed in large numbers tomorrow are essential to our goal of running up the score in the early vote and winning the election in October.
Read 6 tweets
Sep 4
@politicalwire recommends waiting until after Labor Day before paying too much attention to the polls. Here’s his advice on what to make of the polls now. politicalwire.com/2024/09/03/now…
“Don’t make too much of individual polls and follow the polling averages instead. The best polling aggregators are Nate Silver … natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-…
Read 8 tweets
Jul 30
Sad news for trump. Very sad.

“The political world is buzzing, not only over Harris’s momentum but the coming announcement of her choice of running mate.
“Undecided voters are learning about impressive, capable, and normal Democrats all over the country—from Gov. Andy Beshear to Gov. Josh Shapiro to Gov. Tim Walz.
“They’re also seeing clips of the inimitable Pete Buttigieg pop up in their feeds, destroying Trump and Vance on television every few hours.
Read 12 tweets
Jul 28
An interview with the chief author of the American intelligence community’s report on Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

rollingstone.com/politics/polit…
“The unclassified version of the intelligence report concluded that Putin had ‘ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election,’ had ‘developed a clear preference for [Trump],’ and ‘aspired to help [Trump’s] election chances when possible.’
“The report found broad agreement within the intelligence community except for one point: Had Putin ordered Russia’s spy services to meddle in the election merely to cause bipartisan chaos, or had he wanted Trump to win?
Read 7 tweets
Jul 24
Thanks to @NastyOldWomyn for flagging this article.

“Superficial analyses of why certain tech billionaires are aligning with Trump tend to fixate on issues like taxes & regulations, but that’s only part of the story.
“Tech plutocrats like Thiel & Elon Musk already have money. Now they want power—as much as money can buy.” newrepublic.com/article/183971…
“ … Vance is a Thiel creation. And like his billionaire benefactor—who once wrote, ‘I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible’—Vance embraces a radical ideology hell-bent on destroying government as we know it.
Read 8 tweets

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