Apologies for the programming interruption I had to go carbo load to get ready for this ......event
Let me start off by sending my condolences to my friends living under the tyranny of east coast time.
Here in The Vortex there is no time so who is to say if the debate starts late, early, next Friday even?
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So Cleveland Clinic is hosting this presidential debate. Wonderfully appropriate with health care on the ballot and in the courts this election!
Well so I guess Chris Wallace is moderating this debate on mute
The audience promises to stay silent during the debate. Screaming inside your hearts, only.
I know I already am
First subject is the Supreme Court. Goes right to the Amy Coney Barrett nomination.
Trump says he gets to nominate Barrett because he won the election and election have consequences.
Except that he hasnt won THIS election and thousands are currently voting.
We won the election and therefore we have the right to chose her, Trump insists.
Trump is definitely talking about "we have the election" as though it is THIS election in case the alarm bells were not already ringing nonstop
Biden goes right to this point. There is an election happening RIGHT NOW. People are voting RIGHT NOW.
Biden immediately connects striking down the ACA as an attack on women's rights and this is very good. Women will pay more for less coverage.
Also abortion is health care
If Biden can maintain this demeanor I predict Trump will lose his mind real soon
Biden is speaking in the tone of a parent who has negotiated for hours on end with a toddler
Donald Trump says abortion isn't on the ballot this year and I would like to introduce him to both the states of Colorado and Louisiana where abortion is actually on the ballot
Wallace is trying to ask Trump a question on the ACA and Trump is talking over Wallace. He's debating the moderator. I mean. Wallace should refuse to participate
What is the Trump health care plan?
Trump answers first by attacking Wallace and then Biden and basically everyone is laughing at him.
But inside our hearts only.
Insulin so cheap it's like water, Trump promises.
Biden now gets to actually lay out his health care plan and Trump interrupts to shout SOCIALIZED MEDICINE
Everybody knows he's a liar says Biden
Wallace can you let him finish and Trump makes a sex joke
This is real life I can't snark this
Biden also just called Trump a clown.
Reminder this all started as an opportunity for Trump to explain a Republican health care plan and it devolved into a sex joke by the sitting president
Trump is going to respond with an insult 10000% guaranteed
Wallace asks Biden about expanding the court or ending the filibuster
Biden says 'the issue is the american people should speak by vote'
Oh fun now we talk about COVID but not without Wallace telling Trump to try and behave first basically
It is what it is because you are who you are is Biden's response to Trump's COVID plan and that's a solid line that will needle Trump for days
1000% Trump talks about Hunter Biden in response
You wouldn't have made ventilators, Trump says to Biden
Oh already with the fake news and bad press
Biden going to empathize with families who lost folks from COVID and Trump can only talk over him
Trump says he's spoken to all the people he needs to can get a vaccine and it's nonsense
Wallace is at least trying to push
Logistically the military is all set up to deliver a vaccine Trump also says
All of this is terrifying nonsense
Lol my favorite brand of conservative populism is attacking state schools
Trump insulting Biden for wearing a mask is 100% on the bingo for tonight
This is a terrible question on the economy but it gives Trump an opportunity to say that Biden would have never closed the economy in response to COVID after saying he wanted to keep the economy shut down
Biden makes a simple point that millionaires and billionaires have done very well during COVID and I don't think people say this enough
THE RICH ARE GETTING RICHER DURING THE PANDEMIC
You can't fix the economy until you fix the COVID crisis, Biden says.
Wallace now going to ask Trump about his $750 tax paid
Buckle up.
I paid millions of dollars of income tax, Trump said.
Show us your tax returns, Biden responds.
Hahaha now Trump trying to blame Biden for taking investment depreciations
This is all farce
Are any of us really going to get through tonight?
YES WE ARE I BELIEVE IN US WE CAN DO THIS
Sorry zoned out there for a second and maybe very definitely grabbed a vape pen
Oh came back to Hunter Biden I see lol
Mr President, please stop is something the debate moderate has to say over and over and over again
At what point will the producers cut the camera if Trump can't abide by the rules
Now the race question and this is already terrible.
Why should voters trust you on race is the question.
Biden invokes Charlotteville and Trump's association and Trump cannot stay quiet.
Biden now pivots to Floyd protests and teargassing protesters for a photo op.
Biden connecting COVID deaths to racism too.
Okay here's Trump's answer and he responds with
Crime Bill and super-predators
Trump then pivots to say he has the support of law enforcement and all the police unions in case you want to know how Trump sees race in this country
I mean I know you all know how he sees race but here it is, once again
Biden says he believes in systemic racism and this will be somehow controversial
Trump said critical race theory is racist and part of a radical revolution taking place in our military and schools.
He is literally complaining about reverse racism and hating our country and all the white supremacist dog whistles
Trump also notably doesn't say he believes in systemic racism.
I know I know. I'm just trying to close the loops here
Oh good now the law and order question
Wallace asks if this is a party issue and Trump says well duh look at Chicago
Biden pointing out that suburbs are integrated and that Trump saying he's coming for the suburbs only registers to racists
Wallace is very upset about the protests and this is a solid peek into Fox programming id
Wallace asks Biden how come he hasn't called Portland to call in the National Guard and Biden rightly points out he's not currently an elected official
Wallace asks Trump to condemn white supremacists and militia groups
Trump can't do it.
STAND BACK AND STAND BY Trump tells the Proud Boys when asked to condemn white nationalists so there you go
Literally when asked to disavow white supremacists Trump tells them to stand by. Just want to make sure that didn't blow past any one
Wow this is really bad at a level that I didn't even imagine
Trump says he believes in planting a billion trees in response to a question of whether he believes in climate change.
I really can't believe nobody factored in a bathroom break
WHY DIDN'T YOU CLEAN UP THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE LAST 47 YEARS is a real thing that Trump also just said
Trump answers the question of how can people trust the election by suggesting there's been a long coup against him.
Don't tell me about a free transition, Trump says.
This is going to be a fraud like you've never seen, Trump says of this election.
Are you counting on the Supreme Court to settle any dispute
Yeah I think so, Trump says.
lol I deleted that Tweet because it said Trump v Gore it should have said:
This is a good time to remind y'all that Amy Coney Barrett worked on the BUSH v Gore litigation team along with John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh
GOOD GRIEF APOLOGIES
Trump urges his supporters to go to the polls and "watch very carefully"
Trump refuses to say that he won't claim victory before the election results are independently certified nor will he commit to urging his supporters to stay calm
This is all so so very bad y'all. More in the media need to speak this clearly.
Oh my god we're going to call it a night.
Wallace is shaken but the next real test is how this is covered starting now
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The nuts and bolts of today's argument is less about how far the conservatives roll back mifepristone access and the likely reality that there are at least 5 votes to use the Comstock Act to impose national abortion bans in a variety of flavors
Pills by mail is an absolute game changer when it comes to abortion access and that's precisely why conservatives have attacked it
I desperately need folks to understand that this is intentional. Johnston and his ilk depend on reinforcing poverty as a policy choice in part to bleed social services and redirect funding to their Christian grifts. They actually say this part out loud.
If I accomplish anything in this one short life I've been given its to help folks FUCKING GRASP that "cultural welfare" is economic welfare. There are no fiscal conservatives. CULTURAL WELFARE IS ECONOMICS FFS
To state it more plainly. The war on our bodies and identities is directly tied to our ability to produce labor and be compensated for it. And our ability to be full civic participants. It's not new.
Johnathan Mitchell, architect of Texas' bounty hunter abortion ban in particular wants a court to bite on his argument that Comstock functions as a full federal criminal ban on mailing abortion pills AND ALSO a means to attack state laws that affirmatively protect abortion
Honestly if you’re a white person who says they’re committed to racial justice and you’re in good standing with most your family I have *questions* for you and they are definitely pointed
Full disclosure I’m in contact with exactly three members of my birth and extended family for this specific reason
That first question is how committed are you, really
Okay so some moments of joy from today’s graduation. In her speech Olive gave a special shout out on behalf of her for her older brother to the gym teacher who really did not like him. Because. She’s Italian 😂💥
She also declared this was the year she leaves the drama behind.
SO SAY WE ALL ❤️😂
Most kids talked about how they liked field trips and my kid … did not and this is something about apple and the tree 😂🤷🏻♀️❤️
God today was hard. Like. I’ve been in progressive journalism for over 10 years and have covered a lot of shitty things that impact me and my family personally. But going to Olive’s elementary school graduation today hit different than even I was braced for
The day started with her older brother in angry tears that he didn’t move his chemistry final so he could be at her ceremony because….what if. And then it moved to alerts about additional police at all the schools because…threats
We then toggled to Olive processing the news herself that she was going to school just a morning after a massacre like this was a normal thing to do in this county while also still being excited about her day.