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1/ Key sentence: "Clinicians would know which interventions had evidence-based efficacy for treating specific conditions."
The basic assumption underlying these recommendations in @TheLancetPsych is false. A DSM diagnosis does not identify homogenous group of people with same
2/ specific condition. It's not like aa diagnosis of influenza or diabetes which identifies a common condition likely to respond to same treatments. Ppl who meet DSM diagnostic criteria for a mental heath diagnosis, say depression, do not have same "specific" condition w/ common
3/ underlying cause that responds to same treatments. Developers of past editions of the DSM went to pains to make this clear. It was stated in DSM itself, in the preamble. DSM classification—based exclusively on overt, surface-level, readily-observable signs & symptoms (vs.
3/ underlying conditions giving rise to them)—cannot serve as guide for treatment and cannot provide a foundation for developing one. NIMH understood this when it rejected DSM as foundation for mental health research. It would be like to aspiring to provide the same treatment to
4/ everyone based because they have fever—without regard to condition causing it, which could be anything from common cold to bacterial infection to ebola—and considering this a scientific advance. Without meaningful basis for identifying "specific conditions," talk of "evidence-
5/ based efficacy for treating specific conditions" is just nonsensical. A worthy aspiration—but a dead end scientifically & clinically. Moreover, psychotherapists treat *people* not "specific conditions." For most ppl most of time who seek psychotherapy, symptoms/conditions are
6/ inextricably intertwined with who they are as people. It's not what they "have" but who they are. You can treat a bacterial infection without understanding person's subjective experience & inner world, but not their psychology—not if therapy goal is meaningful & lasting change

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May 18
1/ Therapy “outcome” is not a standardized scale a researcher, who's never met the patient, chooses in advance & superimposes on therapy process

Real outcome is a shared understanding of desired personal change that emerges organically from the therapy work—unique to each person
2/ Most therapy outcome researchers are not, in fact studying “outcome” in ways meaningful to patients or therapists. They’re making assumptions about what people they don't know want from psychotherapy, and the assumptions often have little to do with what patients actually want
3/ Then they distort the entire therapy process to orient it around their arbitrarily-imposed “outcomes”

Skilled therapists actually orient therapy around a shared understanding—developed with each individual patient—about 1) what is going on psychologically that's giving rise
Read 7 tweets
May 15
1/ Rule of thumb, part 1
Most therapy patients will begin to feel somewhat better within first weeks. Expect 6-12 months to make headway with underlying psychological causes

part 2
Add 6 additional mos. for every prior treatment with manualized, "evidence-based" therapy

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2/ what they have to unlearn:

-that there’s a quick fix
-that therapist has the answers / can tell them what to do
-that there's a bypass around the honest hard work of self-reflection and self-understanding
-that therapy isn't a procedure done to them, it’s a relationship &
3/ a collaboration
-that unpleasant thoughts & feelings can be disregarded or explained away
-that their difficulties are not encapsulated “illnesses” to address in isolation… they’re woven into the fabric of their lives & their relationships
Read 5 tweets
May 11
1/ I’m not sure, but leaning toward the view that all the research showing that therapeutic alliance predicts therapy outcome may be leading us astray. Here me out

Just about any well-intentioned therapist can develop a decent working alliance with someone at the healthier end
2/ of the spectrum of personality functioning (reasonably securely attached, good object relations, mature defenses, no serious personality pathology)

But it’s incredibly difficult to develop a working alliance with people with more severe character pathology (impaired capacity
3/ for attachment, impoverished or malevolent object relations, more primitive defenses, etc)

What if “therapeutic alliance” is really a proxy for personality health vs. personality disturbance?

If so, “therapeutic alliance” research may tell us only that people with healthier
Read 6 tweets
Apr 30
1/ I made a list a while ago, about therapy🚩 that should make you think long & hard about whether you’re seeing right therapist

Starting another, please add

-agrees with nearly everything you say
-diagnoses people in your life
-gives you advice
-mawkish displays of “empathy"
2/ -defaults to calming/soothing in response to everything
-acts like cheerleader/coach
-wants to play role of hero or savior
-wants to plays role of spiritual or religious guide
-validates & affirms whatever you say
-speaks in jargon or “therapy speak” instead of plain English
3/ -jumps in with worksheets or “exercises” instead of listening
-joins you in blaming other people in your life
-seeks to indoctrinate you in politics/ideology
-talks about themselves/discusses their own life
-does most of the talking
-promises a specific result or outcome
Read 9 tweets
Apr 26
1/ Absolutely none of these conclusions are justified

1️⃣ Patients who exercised showed some minimal improvement—but not enough to matter
2️⃣ The patients were not severely depressed to begin with
3️⃣ We already know that antidepressants & brief therapy (8-12 sessions, which is
2/ pretty much all that’s ever studied in research trials) are inadequate treatment for most depressed patients most of the time

(Avg effect of antidepressants in research trials is < 2 points on Hamilton Depression Rating Scale compared to controls—which is clinically trivial)
3/
4️⃣ The proper conclusion is NOT that exercise is more effective than two effective comparison treatments

The proper conclusion is that NONE of the treatments in this study are adequate treatment—and this is with patients who are not severely depressed
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Apr 25
1/ “Therapists need to be oriented toward... patient’s degree of felt power to influence events.

Many people come to treatment feeling that things just ‘happen to’ them. The absence of a sense of agency is inferable when the therapist has asked a question such as, ‘Were you
2/ feeling sexual desire when you agreed to give oral sex to that guy?’ and meets a blank stare or a response like, ‘I don’t know. It seemed like the thing to do at the time.’ Patients who give such answers are often the same ones who wait passively for the therapist to tell
3/ them what to do, a stance that can flummox clinicians who know [therapy] is not a set of instructions but do not easily find their own sense of agency in the face of this non-participation.

Psychodynamic therapists want clients to feel increasing power to influence their
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