A. Okay, here’s a tweet thread about asking people to “be kind” & “forget the last four years of abuse from MAGAs”.

This seems to have occurred in response to @JoeBiden saying he wanted to govern for “all America”, which many have taken to mean he said MAGAs should be forgiven.
B. I don’t believe Biden meant that. In any case he has little choice but to say that, as his literal job is to try to find common ground with everyone he governs.

That’s not true for everyone.

So extrapolating that everyone needs to do that is not only wrong, but it’s abusive.
C. Ppl who’ve spent 4 years being specifically told they shouldn’t be alive, or should be locked up or tortured, have no obligation to forgive/forget.

Because it’s a denial of absolutely justified anger & pain. It makes ppl feel that what happened to them doesn’t matter.
D. This is also true in other situations. Imagine a woman who’d been raped was told to forgive her rapist because she should “be a bigger person”?

In fact, women are told ALL THE TIME they should forgive the offence. Often this hurts more than the original crime (it did for me).
E. Whatever way ppl have been hurt, telling them be kind makes ppl feel there’ll be no punishment & no effort to right wrongs.

In fact, it puts the onus for action & doing the hard work back onto the survivor, not perpetrator. It’s as bad as it gets.

But wait: there’s more.
F. Asking ppl to be silent or forgiving doesn’t work.

Ppl should google “Paradox of Tolerance” by Karl Popper. It explains how too much tolerance leads to a death of tolerance.

Being told to be endlessly & forgiving is violent in itself, & can actually lead to more violence.
G. If ppl are too kind, it allows violence to flourish as it’s never seen, understood or rectified.

There’s nothing wrong with kindness, or forgiveness. But being asked or expected or be nice to or forgive someone who wants you in pain or dead is terrible.
H. Worst of all, the calls to be kind almost always come from highly privileged people. People who’ve never faced the oppression being talked about.

They need to know they’ve no place asking those who’ve been traumatised by violence to now practice togetherness. It’s obscene.
I. Hurt ppl have the right to celebrate overcoming those who’ve hurt them. They’ve the right to seek retribution & justice.

They even have the right to talk about how they feel without ever being asked to “calm down” or “put it behind them”. They should be listened to.
J. If ppl want to forgive (whether it’s Trump or their own abuser/attacker) they’ll do it in their own time. It’s not anyone’s place to force or hurry that process.

Also, nobody should be told to stop posting memes like this one (yes, have seen this happen yesterday).
K. It’s true that terrible ppl probs don’t get better from being mocked or yelled at. That’s an issue. But saying they should avoid consequences isn’t right, either.

& mocking ppl isn’t the same as wishing others were dead, locked up or deported. Those crimes aren’t equivalent.
L. This thread explains why MFW don’t ignore terrible behaviour or tell ppl to disregard it.

We call it out, & civilly tell awful ppl they’re wrong.

If they won’t change, we’ll try to make them using collective action.

It’s not everything, but it is something.


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8 Nov

Good morning to all who can see our account again today after we were suspended yesterday for saying *one* word non-abusively about Trump that we’ve seen dozens of men’s accounts say including directly to Trump & none were suspended.



Here’s the thing: Twitter doesn’t suspend accounts on their own. Ever, AFAIK.

All they do is *respond* to ppl reporting accounts, & make decisions on whether those ppl are right or not.

So whether someone’s suspended/banned is 100% due to how many reports Twitter gets.

This makes Twitter extremely misogynistic & racist, & supportive of trolls & the RW.

Becos people report women far more, & Black ppl, & activists. There are RW ppl who spend all their time reporting such accounts, & hoping some of it sticks.

This is amplified ...
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Many say our #NewsCorpse campaign won’t work as Murdoch values the power of his media so will continue even if losing money.

That may be true, but his heirs won’t, & his board won’t take it forever, either.

He’s losing a billion dollars a year at present.

Short thread. 1/7.
2/7. Taking money away from #NewsCorpse isn’t just about damaging revenue.

It’s about damaging the brand, as influential media buyers start fleeing the product (just as they’re now fleeing coal investment).

It’s about making the Murdoch name toxic, till nobody will touch it.
3/7. This is a hugely achievable aim.

Ad buyers are *already* advising buyers not to go near Murdoch media.

Share prices are dropping. Other indices are becoming close to useless.

Taken all together, there’s no way Murdoch’s bankers and board will permit this to continue.
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I am here today for the last Presidential #debates just to watch @realDonaldTrump’s mouth keep moving when his microphone is muted ...
Their tie colours are the opposite of what they would be in Australia.

This is of interest to almost nobody except me.
He’s not trying to butt in yet but the look on his face is fucking priceless.
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1/5. There are a lot of people not in VIC passing a shedload of commentary ATM about how people in VIC do (or, more to the point) should feel & behave.

They mostly forget that VICs, more than any other Aussies, are in “fight or flight” mode RN, & most are under immense stress.
2/5. If you’re not in VIC, perhaps think back to how you felt in Mar/Apr this year.

If you’re honest, it was a helluva time but you’ve forgotten what most of it felt like.

Well, VICs are still in the middle of that, but worse.

Way worse.

We HAVE to beat this wave.
3/5. VICs genuinely feel we’re fighting for our lives.

We all know #NewsCorpse media act in bad faith, but forget that for us VICs, the lies & bias is intensely personal.

This is NOT a theoretical exercise.

If Murdoch has his way, our parents are at risk, & even ourselves.
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1. You can’t argue with people who don’t share your values. Short thread.

Conservatives *literally* believe making money unimpeded by #COVID19 lockdowns is more important than 10,000 or more deaths.

You can’t argue them out of it because there’s no connection in values.
2. Take Graham Turner of @flightcentreAU.

RN, he’s on TV arguing some will have to die so he can get his business & wealth back.

You can’t talk him out of his belief as he truly thinks capitalism (HIS capitalism) matters more than dead people. He sees nothing wrong with it.
3. If you can’t or won’t accept this concept, you’ll continue to try to be kind & nice & respectful to ppl who share no kind or nice values with you.

But there’s no point of connection. None.


Because talking to ppl like Graham is USELESS.
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1/6. So, here’s an interesting thing.

In past few weeks, MFW have been deliberately targeted for abuse by several different men, all claiming to be progressive.

All but 1 we’d never interacted with AFAWK, & that 1 got ragey after we gently pulled him up on a sexist comment.
2/6. We wouldn’t raise this again as we’d rather focus on our campaign work, but in nearly all of these cases we were contacted by DM after by women who’d also faced abuse from the same men. In one case, we received DMs from EIGHT women saying the man in question had stalked ...
3/6. ... or threatened or otherwise hurt either them or a woman they knew. The lengths women went to to let us know to be extra careful & to have our backs on this was extraordinary, as they didn’t know we’d keep this information confidential so it was a risk to get in touch.
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