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Timothy Keller (1950-2023) Profile picture
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Nov 24, 2020 • 4 tweets • 1 min read • Read on X
Of course I will do some soul-searching, Kell. I’ve been talking to folks like you who have been the victims of bigotry for years. I never want to become immune to that hurt. 1/4
You seem to be saying that an argument like Edwards’ that (a) acknowledges the reality of very good and virtuous non-theists yet (b) shows the serious problems and implications of non-theism for ethics—necessarily dehumanizes and demonizes non-theists. 2/4
I’d like you to consider that his assertions are carefully thought out and reasoned. And there are articles and books being written right now, often by non-theists themselves, that are pointing out the same problems. 3/4
Just one example—though it is an older one—is Steven Lukes Marxism and Morality. More recently there’s Jurgen Habermas. So if you are saying that any such criticisms of non-theistic ethics is baseless and bigoted, I have to disagree. 4/4

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Last on Pandemic. In NYC early 2020 9.2% of every person who got Covid died, and 32% of all hospitalized with COVID died. The hospitals were overwhelmed. In Elmhurst body bags were in the street. NYCrs were not offended that year by restrictions and calls for vaccination.
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THE DOCTRINE OF JUSTIFICATION 1) Are we justified—accepted by God—through the merit of our obedience to him (Legalism). No. 2) Are we justified freely by faith such that it doesn’t matter if we disobey him or not (Antinomianism). No. 3) Is the reality something in the middle,
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Feb 27, 2023
What do we do with the criticism we get on Twitter? A long thread:

1. The first response to criticism should never be instinctive rejection but to listen to see if we can learn from it. (Prov 12:15, 15:31-32) That’s what I try to do if and when I see it. /1
2. Far more often, however, internet criticism is not something we can learn from because it is either a) completely untrue or b) it is a genuine difference of opinion but expressed in the most vicious and cruel way, or c) it is strongly biased rather than fair-minded. /2
An example of the first kind of untrue criticism is- “Tim Keller segregated the unvaccinated from the vaccinated at Redeemer.” I left Redeemer June 30, 2017 so this is just untrue. Also, 4 of 5 Redeemer congregations meet in rented facilities, and their landlords set policies /3
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Feb 24, 2023
Thread: On Mocking. Most mocking the basic idea of ‘diagonalization’ or ‘fourth way’ have not read the book or taken the time to engage. Mocking only plays to the prejudices of the crowd and reveals the lack of seriousness of the critique. amzn.to/3ZjMHg0
It's true, some ideas and people deserve to be scoffed at or mocked. It is not a sin to do so—even God
sometimes mocks (Ps 2:4). But to mock regularly, as a pattern of life, is to ‘sit in the seat’ of
mockers (Ps 1:1). By playing to the prejudices of the crowd, by belittling /2
...and demonizing the opposition one does not have to do the hard work of coming up with actual counter arguments. It tries to win with eye-rolls, dismissive sighs, clever jokes, and arched eyebrows. Contrast this posture with Jesus. Even when making his strongest critique of /3
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Feb 16, 2023
Thread: Secular Progressives market their view of sex and gender as an objective and universal truth that all people must adopt. They will not admit that it is instead an ideological construal based on a highly western and individualistic account of human nature. /1
While I listen respectfully to my Hindu neighbors about their beliefs, I do not need to embrace those beliefs in order to love, befriend, and respect them personally, and they don’t require that either, nor does our culture. /2
So while I listen respectfully to my gay neighbors about their beliefs, I do not need to embrace their views of human nature, moral values, authentic selfhood, and sexual ethics to love, befriend, and respect them personally either. Why does our secular culture say we have to? /3
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Thread: I agree western culture is moving from a ‘positive’ view of Christianity to a ‘neutral’ to a ‘negative world’ stance against Christianity. This is not a new thought. The first thinker I know who addressed this was Abraham Kuyper over 100 years ago. /1
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