How is it possible that I turned on the House debate JUST as Jim Jordan started speaking? Why have the gods cursed me so?
On the PLUS side (there is a plus side), since Jim Jordan is in his own house (this is a remote debate), he is not YELLING. He still sounds like an asshole, but at least my hearing will not suffer.
Sorry, I forgot to be clear, they are currently debating the 25th amendment. The article of impeachment will be considered later in the day, possibly at bedtime for me.
Jim McGovern is saying that this is not a partisan issue. That he was on the house floor and saw the mob trying to break glass doors to get access to the floor. He says "Trump incited that mob, and unfortunately some of our colleagues did, too."
He is asking Jim Jordan to admit the election wasn't rigged or stolen.

Jim Jordan is hedging and saying he was just "following process".

McGovern is saying "Answer the question I asked."
McGovern says, "I'm not asking about the process. I'm asking you to make a statement that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won fair and square."

Jim Jordan is flat out REFUSING to clearly state this, and instead is coming up with a bunch of stupid words to avoid the question.
McGovern says that the only way to promote healing is to admit that Biden/Harris won fairly.

Jim Jordan: Biden will be sworn in on the 20th--

McGovern: THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM ASKING.

Jim Jordan is now engaging in petty arguing.
Jim Jordan is trying to push some shit. "Are you saying there were no concerns with this election."

SIR IF THERE WERE VALID CONCERNS, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE LOST 59 COURT CASES.
Jamie Raskin is pointing out what I just said. They lost court cases. And that they need to focus on the fact that PEOPLE DIED. "Can we get it together as a congress to tell the vice president what is obvious, which is that the president is dangerous?"
Jim Jordan remaining insistent: "I SAID Joe Biden won, but there were problems with the election."

McGovern is not impressed. He is calling out Jim Jordan for backing up a president who insisted upon the lie that he won by a landslide.

Jim Jordan IS STILL ARGUING.
Jim Jordan keeps going back to Clinton's loss and saying "there's a double standard."

McGovern says, "I DIDN'T TRY TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION."

Jim Jordan, in my continued observation, is an absolute wanker.
Jamie Raskin is saying, "In 2017, no one was advocating for AN ARMED INSURRECTION against the United States."

McGovern adds that in 2017 "I didn't like that Trump won, but I acknowledged it. Trump continues to put out the big lie that he won in a landslide."
Jim Jordan is saying that Pence is not going to evoke the 25th amendment. That he has been clear. This is probably the only valid point he's raised thus far (and perhaps ever, in any time where I have suffered listening to him).
I should mention that Jamie Raskin should not have to sit here dealing with this shit when his son just died. But he's here anyway, putting the country first.
Rep. Torres speaking about her experience on the 6th right now. Her voice is shaking. "I was the last group to be evacuated," she said. "I sheltered 4 to 5 hours shoulder to shoulder with people, and adding to the trauma, several republican colleagues refused to wear a mask."
Rep Torres is furious. "How dare you? How dare you incite a mob to decertify our election, so you can pick and choose whose votes should count, and whose votes should not count?"
Oh, let me just briefly interrupt so I can give a watch link, if you're interested in viewing with me: c-span.org/video/?507917-…
Rep Torres saying "This was an attack on the peaceful transfer of power... It was an attack that almost worked."
Rep Torres says when she called her son, that the call lasted seconds. That all she could say was "Sweetheart, I'm ok. I'm running for my life." Which, ooooooooof.
Jim Jordan now reiterating that he doesn't think congress should tell Pence what to do (IE the 25th amendment option). He says that impeachment sets a dangerous precedent.

THIS. WAS. AN ARMED. INSURRECTION, JIM. THEY BROUGHT A GALLOWS.
Jim Jordan's voice is echoing, and listen, ONE Jim Jordan voice is enough. Please. Fix.
Mr May, enters the room: JIM JORDAN IS AN ASSHOLE
Oh, right. Someone reminded me that Trump literally just rewarded Jim Jordan the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

So you know what? Fuck Jim Jordan's opinion.
McGovern is saying that unity can only begin by admitting Biden won, and that the election wasn't stolen. He tells Jim Jordan, "Tweet that, instead of the stuff you've been tweeting."
Rep Perlmutter is speaking and says "Trump has damaged America. He has damaged the constitution. Impeachment was the last thing in the world I wanted to do. The only thing that could prompt me to do it was a MOB THAT ATTACKED THE CAPITAL."
Perlmutter asking Jim Jordan again, "Isn't it true that Joe Biden won the election."

Jim Jordan says, "I have never said this election was stolen."

EXCUSE ME??????? YOU HAVE BEEN GIVING OXYGEN TO TRUMP'S CONSPIRACY THEORIES FOR MONTHS, YOU ABSOLUTE CABBAGE
Jim Jordan is back to arguing.

Perlmutter said, "JIM, JEEZ!!!!!! We had damage -- INJURY -- to this nation. The likes of which we haven't seen for centuries. I want the people to know from someone who is in a leadership position that Joe Biden won the election."
I HATE JIM JORDAN
Perlmutter mentioned Debbie Lesko is coming up and my expression immediately went 😒
Jim Jordan is saying "Let's work together in condemning violence."

lol. please get this horrible man off my screen
excuse me i need a beer if i am to keep listening to Jim Jordan
Debbie Lesko is up so I DEFINITELY need a beer
Debbie Lesko literally said, "I don't understand why Democrats don't chalk up their wins and move on."

FIVE PEOPLE DIED, DEBBIE. THERE WAS AN ARMED INSURRECTION AT THE CAPITAL.
Jim Jordan said just minutes ago "I never said this election was stolen"
Jim Jordan appears to be pushing the conspiracy that ballots were found in drawers --

excuse me, I started typing that out before he said the next part, which was to immediately cast doubt on the results of the swing states. So he is just flat out pushing election conspiracies.
Jim Jordan is just rambling right now.
Like, Jim Jordan is just literally rambling. If I heard him in a pub, I would move to a different table.
McGovern is insisting Jim Jordan admit the election isn't stolen.

Jim Jordan insisting I'VE NEVER SAID IT WAS STOLEN

I'll remind you that, literally, LITERALLY, one minute ago, he was rambling about ballots in drawers and questioning the swing state results.
Rep Morelle says, "I find it interesting that it's divisive to challenge an insurrection, but not an election."
Rep DeSaulnier is speaking (sounding a bit hoarse) after having just spent 4 weeks on a ventilator, and apparently was given only a 10% chance of surviving. But he called this a consequential moment and called out Debbie Lesko specifically for her comments on just moving on.
Rep Deborah Ross is arguing that she thinks Pence would more responsibly carry out the rest of the transition, as opposed to Trump, who is growing increasingly volatile.
The committee is now in recess. CSPAN immediately went to a page marking Trump's speech at Alamo, to which I yelped "NO NO NO NO NO NO"

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