What nonsense, the report found no evidence that women were coerced into these institutions. And it is ridiculous to compare Ireland in the 50s or 60s to dictatorships
"Many were destitute"; report claims they entered these homes because they had no money, the alternative was emigration or they didn't want their neighbours (i.e. "society") to find out about their pregnancy. They were not forced and the orders made no profit from them
Some families also sent them there. But there is no evidence of any religious or state coercion. The homes were a product of social and economic conditions at the time. 'Society' isn't to blame, but nor is the Church or their families.
Report itself says "Most women had no alternative", homes ran on a pittance and were overcrowded (breeding crowds for TB and other infectious diseases, especially before vaccines and antibiotics). So easy to take potshots from affluent 21st century but those were tough times.
People making dramatic claims about alleged 'torture' of women but report found "there is very little evidence of physical abuse and no evidence of sexual abuse” in the homes.
His perspective is a common misconception, holding that Irish people were naturally secular and progressive but were 'ruled' over by an alien politico-clerical caste. 1950s Ireland was a fully democratic state. Law was conservative, but so were the social mores of the people.
That began to change from 1960s onwards (partly as a result of changes within the Church) but as recently as 1995, over 49% of people voted against introduction of divorce. Nobody forced them to oppose divorce.

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