Atlantis - Mu - Lemuria thread: 
Through much of history we have seen multiple examples of a lost seafaring civilizations. Is there anything to these legends? We will examine some of the ideas here.
Perhaps the most famous of the legends is that of Atlantis.
Plato told the story of Atlantis around 360 B.C.
They created a utopian civilization and became a great naval power. Their home was made up of concentric islands separated by wide moats and linked by a canals.
Plato told the story of Atlantis around 360 B.C.
They created a utopian civilization and became a great naval power. Their home was made up of concentric islands separated by wide moats and linked by a canals.
There have been several proposed locations for Atlantis many looking toward the middle of the Atlantic ocean - from which the city gets it's name - to the Bahamas of the Caribbean.
Although no real evidence has been found to support the legend of Atlantis we have other legends of great seafaring civilizations that we can draw from.
Lemuria and Mu.
Two names that have been used somewhat interchangeably in modern times to describe a lost civilization.
Lemuria and Mu.
Two names that have been used somewhat interchangeably in modern times to describe a lost civilization.
It was in 1864 that zoologist Philip Sclater suggested a lost civilization located in the Indian ocean he called Lemuria.
It is said in Tamil legend to have been civilized for over 20,000 years, with traces of the culture surviving on the Indian subcontinent even until today.
It is said in Tamil legend to have been civilized for over 20,000 years, with traces of the culture surviving on the Indian subcontinent even until today.
The theory was proposed as an explanation for the presence of lemur fossils in both Madagascar and India.
Although scientifically disproven - we know that the isolated island of Madagascar in the Indian ocean is still home to the earths most densely populated biodiversity.
Although scientifically disproven - we know that the isolated island of Madagascar in the Indian ocean is still home to the earths most densely populated biodiversity.
Was India home to an ancient thalassocratic empire that spread around South East Asia and Indonesia in times of early history?
The Tamil were the great stoneworkers of ancient India. We see megalithic stonework all throughout Indonesia.
Could these sites be connected to a great seafaring empire that we don't completely understand the history of?
Could these sites be connected to a great seafaring empire that we don't completely understand the history of?
What would this cultural center have looked like originally?
Where do we get these ideas of lost ancient cities?
Nias Island is known as the last surviving megalithic culture.
Isolated from the rest of the world could it have preserved some of these traditions from the past?
Isolated from the rest of the world could it have preserved some of these traditions from the past?
Here is a relief of a Borobudur.
It was a kind of ship that was native to Polynesia that was used on established trade routes throughout the region.
It was a kind of ship that was native to Polynesia that was used on established trade routes throughout the region.
These ships were known to have been seaworthy enough to sail across the Indian ocean to Africa on what was known as the Cinnamon trade route.
Imagine thousands of these throughout the entire region..
We are talking about a naval empire that was the largest of it's kind known to the ancient world.
We are talking about a naval empire that was the largest of it's kind known to the ancient world.
If you don't think this culture was capable of sailing across the Pacific to the Americas on such a boat consider this guy that sails from California to Hawaii on a 23 foot sailboat alone..
Mainline history even suggests that the Hawaiian Islands were first settled as early as 400 C.E., when Polynesians from the Marquesas Islands, 2000 miles away, traveled to Hawaii's Big Island in canoes.
The Real History Of Hawaii: From Lost Civilizations To The Search For Atlantis hiddenincatours.com/the-real-histo…
The Kadavul Hindu Temple is a Sri Lankan-Style Hindu temple dedicated to the Shiva located on the Kauai island in the state of Hawaii, USA.
Kadavul is an ancient Tamil word for God, meaning “He who is both immanent and transcendent.”
Kadavul is an ancient Tamil word for God, meaning “He who is both immanent and transcendent.”
Although not officially established until 1973 it shows the presence of Shiva worship on the island connecting it back to the Hindu-Tamil cultures of the Indian subcontinent.
The Spanish were briefly given territorial rights to India by Pope Alexander VI on 25 September 1493 by the bull Dudum siquidem before these rights were removed by the Treaty of Tordesillas less than one year later.
It's suggested by some authors that when the Spanish came in contact with India at this time they found record of ancient trade routes leading to the western Americas previously unknown to the European world.
Spain never colonialized India because of the governments of Spain and Portugal agreeing to the Treaty of Tordesillas.
The treaty neatly divided the “New World” of the Americas between the two superpowers.
The treaty neatly divided the “New World” of the Americas between the two superpowers.
Portugal - the country known as the "Templar Nation"
If something was found in India could it have been taken back to Portugal or Spain and guarded by Templar Knights?
If something was found in India could it have been taken back to Portugal or Spain and guarded by Templar Knights?
First Templar Nation
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grahamhancock.com/silvaf2/
Could this be where we get the legend of California as an Island?
Being yet another mythical island nation that turned out to not be what we thought it was.
Being yet another mythical island nation that turned out to not be what we thought it was.
By the year 1300 King Denis of Portugal is said to have expanded the Portuguese maritime influence for export of surplus production to Europe.
This guy wasn't a fan of the Catholic Church.. could he have sought refuge from the Church in a foreign land?
India? California?
This guy wasn't a fan of the Catholic Church.. could he have sought refuge from the Church in a foreign land?
India? California?
By 1400 Henry the Navigator was expanding Portuguese influence and was determined to find a water route to the Orient.
He was said to have been very interested in the legends of Prestor John the mythic Christian King of the Tartaria.
He was said to have been very interested in the legends of Prestor John the mythic Christian King of the Tartaria.
Henry the Navigator died in 1460 and 34 years after his death Spain and Portugal reach an agreement that seeds the western coasts of the American continents to Spain.
This is only 2 years after Columbus makes his famous journey to the Americas in 1492.
This is only 2 years after Columbus makes his famous journey to the Americas in 1492.
We are led to believe that Spain focused the majority of it's colonial efforts in the New World in the areas we now know today as Mexico and Peru.
Although their treaty seeded them claims to all lands touching the Pacific Ocean (including California).
Although their treaty seeded them claims to all lands touching the Pacific Ocean (including California).
Did they arrive in the New World to find that the land was already settled by people that came over on boats from Polynesia centuries before?
We know when Cortez came to South America it was to war with the Aztec empire and to seize control of the empire from Montezuma.
Enter Juan Rodríguez Cabrillo his claim to fame is to be the first European to explore the coast of California.
Cabrillo was sent by Spain in 1542 to do a survey of the coast of California, but officially he said the area had no real use or purpose.
It should be noted however that Juan never returned from this trip and is said to have died in an accident during his journey.
It should be noted however that Juan never returned from this trip and is said to have died in an accident during his journey.
I'm not the first to make this suggestion but the idea is that he could have been a Templar knight searching for a Spanish mission that held ancient artifacts he then would become the custodian of.
Could the California missions be older than they say officially?
Could the California missions be older than they say officially?
Cabrillo and his men found that there was essentially nothing for the Spanish to easily exploit in California, located at the extreme limits of exploration and trade from Spain.
The expedition depicted the indigenous populations as living at a subsistence level, typically located in small rancherias of extended family groups of 100 to 150 people.
Was this just a cover story?
Was this just a cover story?
Shortly after this expedition we see the "opening" of the Spanish–Philippine trading route in 1565.
Are we to assume this route was new?
Could it have been a trade secret stemming from the early era of Spanish-Portuguese exploration and expansion?
Are we to assume this route was new?
Could it have been a trade secret stemming from the early era of Spanish-Portuguese exploration and expansion?
Could Templar Knights have been exploring in search of ancient artifacts to guard and protect that would lead to the supremacy of the empire during their times?
Could they have been following up on the megalithic structures of prehistory exploring on behalf of the crown?
Could they have been following up on the megalithic structures of prehistory exploring on behalf of the crown?
It's been suggested that the stoneworkers of Polynesia did indeed reach the western coasts of America and founded what we know of as the Olmec civilization.
This could be why we see similar structures in Cambodia (right) to that of South America (left).
This could be why we see similar structures in Cambodia (right) to that of South America (left).
The 'New World' Plus Ultra Spanish Portuguese Empire
When they started to explore the regions of the newly divided realm they started to see similar structures all over the world.
This led to the idea that there was some group before them that had already achieved a sort of global supremacy.
Cambodia (top) South America (bottom)
This led to the idea that there was some group before them that had already achieved a sort of global supremacy.
Cambodia (top) South America (bottom)
California was named after a mythical island of black women who kept man-eating griffins as pets
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Caliphate
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britannica.com/place/Caliphate
Khalifa or Khalifah (Arabic: خليفة) is a name or title which means "successor", "ruler" or "leader".
It most commonly refers to the leader of a Caliphate.
It most commonly refers to the leader of a Caliphate.
What are the differences between Bali and Java?
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We see a similar of sacrificial rituals between Hindu Kali / Shiva cults and that of South America..
The History of Borneo's Headhunters
theculturetrip.com/asia/malaysia/…
theculturetrip.com/asia/malaysia/…
Maya: The greatest secret of Hinduism
speakingtree.in/allslides/maya…
speakingtree.in/allslides/maya…
The Maya: History, Culture & Religion
livescience.com/41781-the-maya…
livescience.com/41781-the-maya…
Maya - People, Language, & Civilization
britannica.com/topic/Maya-peo…
britannica.com/topic/Maya-peo…
Maya - Indian philosophy
britannica.com/topic/maya-Ind…
britannica.com/topic/maya-Ind…
Mayan Calendar and the Yugas
The Hindu & The Maya Philosophy Of Time
thegr8wall.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/the…
thegr8wall.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/the…
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