In 1979, after the Grand Mosque seizure in Pakistan's ally Saudi Arabia, Ayatollah Khomeini, told radio listeners, "It is not beyond guessing that this is the work of criminal American imperialism and international Zionism."
Unsurprisingly, there was a reaction in Pakistan
In Islamabad, Pakistan, on the day following the takeover, the U.S. embassy in that city was overrun by a mob, which burned the embassy to the ground. This soured relations between the Cold War allies the same year the Soviets would begin their invasion of Afghanistan.
This should have served as a warning as to how much the Iranian regime, through anti imperialist & warped Islamist rhetoric could affect Pakistan. Pakistan, with its large Shia minority & extremist pan Islamist population, was so very easy to bully.
The Iranian Revolution greatly worried Pakistan's closest ally, Saudi Arabia & pushed the two Muslim countries into a stronger embrace: Saudi needed military muscle that only Pakistan could provide, to offset Iran, Pakistan needed Saudi Arabia's financial support.
A marriage of convenience that greatly benefitted both sides. Pakistan is assumed to have stationed 20,000 soldiers in Saudi Arabia during the 80s, while the Iran-Iraq war was going on. Saudi has helped Pak survive through their financial power & goodwill for Pak's security help.
Despite propping up Saudi during the war, Pakistan supported Iran during the Iran-Iraq war. Saddam's Iraq funded Baloch terrorists in Pakistan & supported India on Kashmir. An example showing supporting Iran harmed Pakistan's relations with fellow Muslim countries.
Saddam might have supported the Baloch terrorists in Pakistan, but Iran took over from them in collaboration with India. Iran & India conspired against Pakistan via Balochistan & Indian spy Kulbhushan was arrested after plotting with Iran to cause mayhem in Pakistan.
Despite being a close ally of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan opted & opts to claim neutrality, which some argue is in Islamabad's interests due to sectarianism & Iran being a "friendly" neighbour. The reality is, this is untrue, as is proven time & time again.
Ironic is that Pakistan's support for Saudi Arabia is one of the principle reasons for Iran's paranoia against their far more militarily muscular neighbour. Yet, Pak has chosen to take the path of neutrality, which is now showing Pak to be unworthy of investment from the Gulf.
When Pakistan decided to abstain from the Yemen War, the Saudis launched IMCTC, which is headed by ex Pakistan COAS Raheel Sharif. This aimed to help streamline Saudi Arabia's operations in Yemen. Pakistanis saw this as Islamically important.
Saudi Arabia were furious with Pakistan, as the Yemen war is their crunch moment & their huge investment in Pakistan for security reasons turned out to be somewhat wasted. This has soured relations badly, despite Riyadh always keeping the door open.
The benefits for Pakistan would have been numerous, but I'll abstain from talking on them. If Pakistan didn't help Saudi Arabia in their utmost crucial moment, despite great rewards, why should Saudi & the Gulf bother with Pakistan?
The truth is, Saudi Arabia & their recruited mercenaries were unable to affect Yemen positively, leading to widespread catastrophe in order to preserve their security. Pakistan's vastly superior involvement would have MASSIVELY reduced Yemeni casualties- a truly Islamic cause.
In the end, due to the Iranian threat, the Gulf has now courted Israel increasingly, limiting Pakistan's importance even more. All in all, Pakistan's neutrality on the Iran-Saudi cold war has led to more deaths in Yemen & the Gulf flocking to Israel.
Pakistan's neutrality can be blamed on the very real "Iran lobby" as well as genuine fears over potential sectarianism via Iran's influence. But Iran's influence is stronger than necessary because Pakistan has refused to take a strong stance with them.
Even when Iranian border guards conducted an operation in Pakistan, the response was weak. Please read this thread to know just how much appeasement the Pakistanis will do for Iranian interference in Pakistan. Pakistan will lie to keep Iran happy.
Now, forget clandestine operations and proxy wars, the Iranians have openly killed people in Pak territory. How does Pak justify this, after resoundingly responding to Indian on 27Feb19? Even much more powerful India doesn't so brazenly attack Pak, yet Iran does so unharmed?
The truth is, Iran knows that they can have as many Pakistanis killed, Kulbhushan's captured & IRGC operations & Pakistan will do absolutely nothing about it. My question is, why should Iran stop when there is no threat to it & it gains so much?
Pakistan's military superiority has lost all credibility in Iran because Iran know, no matter what they do, there is absolutely no threat to them from Pak. Their paranoia worked well, because now they have put Pak in a position of weakness. Iran has alienated Pak from the Gulf.
Pakistan can change this by proactive responses to Iranian aggression. Show Iran that if it pushes Pakistan politically, Pakistan can teeter back to Gulf. Show Iran that if it kills our people, Pakistan will demonstrate its vast military advantage & strike back.
But let's be straight, Pakistan is set on its ironically destructive neutrality & after all, who really cares about poor, marginalised Baloch being killed when it comes to international relations with friendly neighbouring country Iran?
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Forget taking pride, you didn't even give Biharis the full right to vote until the last decade or so.
When 500,000 Biharis (they say) were killed by Bengali nationalists, how can you say nobody glorifies it? You glorify the Mukti Bahini that carried out those acts of genocide!
Why is it fair game to talk about Punjabi g*nocide but not what Bengalis did? As far as I'm concerned, if you can't be honest about what you guys did, why should you expect any sympathy from Pakistani ultranationalists?
Disingenuous.
As for Pakistan & Biharis.
I am embarrassed that Pakistan couldn't take them in. They were loyal to us & we let them down badly.
That being said, that doesn't abscond Bangladesh of blame. They were physically their people once Bangladesh was formed & they tested them BADLY.
Had a stream that I was traveling to "LHA-1" (Lahore 1 Public School) via road at late dusk. @MHKA23 was showing me his predicted grades & those of his sets & explaining why they were low. Loser. The road was ran on & not driven on, where steep, we were sliding down.
There was a section of road sloping down onto LHA Road that I couldn't slide down & some others were overtaking me. I specifically remember a man who was half English & African overtake me, while I was trying to run down the slope.
I was confused as to where the school was as it looked like a lot of different houses. Lots of people going to schools/classes in different houses. Asked an aunty in a car where LHA-1 was & she tried to point & explain which one it was. I was confused so made my way to a house.
Stop being obsessed with how other people are living their lives & worrying about forcing your personal scholar's/madhab's version of shari'ah on everyone else.
First start practicing your religion properly in your own home first.
When I post these things, I lose followers. I only care about how this affects Pakistan. Go & worship an empty crisp packet for all I care. Just don't mess up Pakistan with your religious fanaticism. Yes, I'm a practicing Muslim & I don't care about your opinion of my views.
You know what's hilarious?
You can practice religion more freely in some non Muslim countries (e.g UK, Canada) without worrying about getting stabbed for having different interpretations of the Holy Prophet ﷺ & intercession.
Pakistan should've annexed Azad Kashmir & Gilgit-Baltistan long ago.
The people in both begged for equal status in Pak long enough- Pak can influence IOJK psyche through developing AJK/GB.
UN means nothing for Kashmir- A370 is proof of that. Daydreams over please.
Same old mesozoic rhetoric of "we will defeat our own UN argument" & taking joy at LOC encounters where actual jawans/civilians are killed.
Do something BOLD. Forget military, go & develop AJK/GB as provinces or similar. Give them what they've been asking for.
Pakistan's Kashmir policy is Triassic- so devoid of any progress because we stick to the same old boring ideas of "oh, UN" & thinking Turkey & Ertugrul are coming to rescue us. THEY WONT, nor will China gift us IOJK. Nor does Pak or India have capability to really change LOAC.
Pakistanis continue to misread the signs to their loss.
1. 𝗜𝗳 𝗜𝗥𝗚𝗖 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗱 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗼𝗽 𝗶𝗻 𝗜𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆:
it wouldn't have taken them two years & help from Pak. It also wouldn't have needed to form a committee with Pak for this very purpose, yet they did. See attached google.com/amp/s/en.irna.…
2. 𝗜𝗳 𝗜𝗥𝗚𝗖 𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗲𝗱 𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝗻 𝗼𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻 𝗣𝗮𝗸𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻:
That means Jaish is Pak-based and was keeping Iranian soldiers in Pakistani territory. That goes against Pakistan's past claims refuting this very thing.