I mean people come in three main ways to argue:

1) In good faith cause something I said is wrong or debatable
2) In good faith but ignorant
3) Armed to fight a script
4) In bad faith

It's only the last group that's really tiring to me, and I usually identify and disengage fast
If people from the last group are spouting nonsense, but of the type I think it's important for people to see dismantled, then I'll draw out the logical pitfalls and move on.

Otherwise, I'll either ignore them or hand them some rope.
(I said three, but then added a fourth. Sue me.)
Anyway. The folks who come with scripted attacks expecting scripted responses are usually thrown off by playing "yes and" which I find tends to get people to put the soundbites down and actually have a discussion.
Those who come in good faith but are misinformed or ignorant are easy.

They want to learn, but they just don't have the right info. I really enjoy these folks.

Sometimes they enter the conversation as the Script army and have to adjust a bit first
Then those who are arguing because I got something wrong or because I'm missing a perspective are my ultimate favorites.

Cause I like discarding things that are wrong.

Lets me be on point more often when I speak.
It usually becomes clear pretty quickly which kind of person you're dealing with.

The Bad Faith actors will never acknowledge being wrong about anything ever. Even if presented with provable facts.

The Script folks won't acknowledge only if the soundbite disagrees.
Those who are just misinformed will willingly acknowledge flaws in their position even though they may still defend erroneous points they don't yet understand.
And those who are arguing in good faith because it's important that I see where I'm off, will not only readily acknowledge facts and strengths in my argument where I managed to get it right but weaknesses in their own, while standing firm where I'm wrong.

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24 Feb
Imagine honestly believing that white people have never acted as a self-interested group.

Whew.
Whiteness was literally only competitive in America through violent white protectionism.

It was never able to compete in the "free market"
It needed chattel slavery to drive its economy.

It wrote disenfranchisement into its Constitution to prevent competition

It gained political dominance by killing and disallowing nonwhite opponents

It gained fiscal dominance through specifically racist protectionist laws.
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24 Feb
Can you please name a law in all of American history that specifically prevents white people from doing a thing they should have a right to do?
Then when you're done with that, please explain where all the white people in this country came from?
Then please explain how the thousands of laws passed to specifically give white people access to legal, political and commercial protections specifically denied to others does not count as "racial advocacy"

Or you know.. don't. I don't much care.
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24 Feb
More like non-consensually dragged into a "Superiority" grading contest they never asked to participate in and would desperately like out of.

White people invented race so that racial superiority was a question people had to address at all.

Nobody else wants to play this game.
You get that? The GAME is trash.

You keep asking people what their rankings are and if they beat you or not.

Everybody keeps telling you they DON'T WANT TO PLAY.

But white folks need to keep score. So game on.
It's like if a kid in school came up to you and was like "Ok we're gonna play king of the school, whoever is king gets to punch everybody. I get to be king first! OK?"

Everyone else is like "No. This sounds like a terrible game" and the kid says "GO!" and starts punching.
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24 Feb
I mean. Ultimately you don't REALLY need one. The sources of those stats literally tell you themselves why and how they're not valid for drawing the kinds of racial group conclusions white supremacists pretend that they draw.
Like you don't need to "Debunk" FBI stats if you just read the disclaimers and limitations sections first.
But the white supremacists will pretend that they had no idea there was a big warning saying "If you use the stats this way, you'll be way off base"

So they present it anyway. Frequently without citation so nobody can go look.
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23 Feb
Elon Musk just lost $15 billion and if nobody had told him, he never would have noticed.
You know what the biggest effect on Elon is of losing more than twice New York City's yearly budget right now? He's only the SECOND biggest billionaire.

That's it. He's down on the Leaderboards.

Cause it's just a game.
But don't worry, Billionaire fans, this just means that Bezos is on top once more!

Stay tuned!
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23 Feb
There's an interesting exploit that right wing white supremacists trolls use against white liberals.

The fact that most white liberals BELIEVE their statistical conclusions about Black people being criminals.

So they don't really have a valid rebuttal.
The flawed statistical arguments and the flogging of FBI data till it's gasping for air have ALWAYS worked on white liberals.

They just tend to feel really conflicted and guilty cause they're supposed to not believe the truth that's in front of them. It's not PC.
This is how the dapper Nazis got a foothold.

Because everyone's bad at stats and white people generally aren't learning stats so they can defend Black people, bullshit rides.

But it puts liberals in the "I know they're Nazis, but they've got a point here" position.

Then cable.
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