@Freakoutery@soulsweller@gordonr11430577 I mean look, I was reading moldbug back when he was writing UR, I'm well acquainted with the "crypto calvinism" hypothesis. I don't think it's a great lens, and I think moldbug's cladistic analysis is good but flawed.
@Freakoutery@soulsweller@gordonr11430577 I was writing about this myself a year before that medium article. In my opinion, you go in circles for a while in the "it's a religion, we need to build a better one" rut and eventually you also come out the other side of that
@Freakoutery@soulsweller@gordonr11430577 There are some important ways that woke is a religion; it fits into the same psychological "slots" in the mind, and it fulfills a religious impulse for the people who practice it, with its rituals and gatherings, but there are also some important divergences
@Freakoutery@soulsweller@gordonr11430577 It's really a lot more of a folk religion, an animism, than it is like any of the major schools of protestant thought. I know a few calvinists and I don't think they find anything resembling their faith in wokism. Seeing these things as evolutionary is good...
@Freakoutery@soulsweller@gordonr11430577 but history is also replete with examples of top-down imposition of religion, or of top-down arresting of religious movements. Woke is no different, but for much the same reason we couldn't occupy iraq, our country can't stop woke.
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This was written off the cuff so I will respond off the cuff. I use a more expansive definition of "folk religion" than gaitanalyst does here. When we think of folk religion we probably think about primitive people in jungles or remote islands, but it's just unorganized religion
People have religious impulses that they will meet one way or another. In this thread I talk about my own personal model for social different needs people have and how they fill them with something practices that take on a "religious" nature
When people who live deep in the jungle and only know their immediate family form a folk religion, it ends up being pretty based and redpilled, because those people have a connection to the earth and to their family.
@apex_simmaps@FlightAstral@egg_report@kaschuta this type of discussion will always be the parable of the blind men and the elephant. You all know it, and you've had the discussion many times. You are talking about the failure modes of a complex system, trying to pin it on a single root cause
@apex_simmaps@FlightAstral@egg_report@kaschuta but the fact is that when something the size of the USA fails, it's because a whole lot of things went wrong and kept going wrong, and there is no single point that you can fix
@apex_simmaps@FlightAstral@egg_report@kaschuta Randy is absolutely right about the individual psychology of the wokist, but when they all act in concert they use the same words and the same memes and the same thought patterns, so there is something we can abstract there.
I hear people say "right and left" are no longer coherent concepts. This is wrong but I see the temptation. The right lost bigly and no one wants to be on the losing team. How to get out of it? Oh, I know, the teams don't exist! Whew!
That was a close one. Almost had to feel like a loser for a second there. Must protect the positive self-image at all times. I'm not joking, I really mean that.
Common argumentative tactic, if you've been on twitter more than an hour you've seen it: "The concept you're using doesn't exist, it's really just [other concept]" or "it's a false distinction."
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One or /ourguys/, a tiny account, got doxed. It was obviously someone he knew who did it, and in response, he an heroed. So let’s quickly talk about opsec
Every single person who knows your secret is a liability, because they increase the surface area of attack
This means you don’t tell anyone, ever, unless you would trust them to take your side in a life-and-death type situation. Because although that’s a bit dramatic, it really does approximate the stakes
If you must have real name accounts as well as anon alts, never cross post content. Don’t say things with similar wording or express the same idea on both accounts around the same time