Thread by @GFPhilosophy

@BadChinaTake Firstly, let me commend you for trying to have an evidence based discussion on this. In this thread, I want ask some clarifying questions. I hope we can keep things civil.

https://twitter.com/BadChinaTake/status/1382941128249462784

Satellite Imagery article: wokeglobaltimes.com/5d34bc453be548…

You say it would not be surprising if there are errors. Have you ascertained what is their error rate? Should we not double confirm sites as camps, before reporting them as such, i.e. “innocent until proven guilty” principle?

Detained Numbers piece: wokeglobaltimes.com/f8b64df5a00743…

Which do you think is the most accurate estimate, and why? Do you think it’s reasonable from a cost and logistical point of view for 25% of the entire Uyghur population to be in detention? What are the potential flow on effects?

Outsiders’ Accounts of Xinjiang piece:
wokeglobaltimes.com/bfdc56ea67d445…

Are you implying Jerry’s tweets, statements, photos and articles have ulterior motives? Any basis for this claim?

Suppression of Birthrates: wokeglobaltimes.com/d4b7ba7e7ed746…

You noted declines in Xinjiang are extremely unusual compared to worldwide data. Have you examined other similar declines and the reasons driving those declines? Is this indisputable evidence that nefarious things are happening?

In the same piece, you concluded that preventing excess births cannot account for the 48.7% decline in birth rate over 2 years. Have you tried to allow for the impact of other factors, such as China having 12% overall birth rate decline in 2018,...

...net migration out of Xinjiang (of mostly reproductive age workers), and rapid economic and transportation improvements allowing faster integration of urban and rural areas, and therefore faster convergence in behaviour?

I also note that you concluded genocide was "very much a possibility" in this piece, but subsequently you wrote a piece that said the evidence does not amount to genocide. Can you please detail what caused this change in conclusion?

International Law and Genocide piece: wokeglobaltimes.com/5b22ee3c12424a…

You note a puzzling disparity in population control rates between different parts of Xinjiang. Does this not show that population statistics are complex, and there are potentially unreliable statistics at play,...

...so further investigations are required before any conclusions can be drawn? Is this data also not more consistent with there been no wide-spread plan to target Uyghurs, but instead a sporadic application of birth-control laws on an as needed basis for each region?

I note you concluded there is no genocide, but there are many crimes against humanity. Can you please provide definitions and case law to support your conclusion that what’s happening amounts to these crimes?...

Further, you seem to say that governments would violate section (h) if they target separatists and extremists. Does it concern you that this interpretation effectively means governments will either be powerless to stop extremism or will have to commit a crime against humanity?

I note you advocate for an alternative charge of cultural genocide in Xinjiang. Can you please define what is “culture”? What is distinctive about Uyghur culture (i.e. “Uyghurness”)? And how is it being destroyed in China?...

If a culture allows polygamy, and the gov bans this practice, is it also “cultural genocide”? And so what if it is?

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