This is a mega-tweet PACKED full of Greek 🇬🇷 / Turkish 🇹🇷 shared songs
Outsiders (many Greeks and Turks too) aren’t actually aware of how intertwined our music is
Dating back to hundreds of years ago, we have consistently borrowed and collaborated right up to the present moment
But how?
How is it possible that 2 different people with 2 different languages, 2 different religions and multiple wars can ignore all of that when it comes to the cultural exchange of music?
The answer is, cohabitation. Anatolia has been home to Greeks and Turks for 1000 years
Cultural exchange has been happening for so long in this time that it’s impossible to say when it began. However it seems pretty obvious that different cultures living in the same land will eventually engage in cultural exchange. Latin America is a good example of this.
No place embodied Greek and Turkish cultural exchange better than Smyrna. Free of the formalities of its cousin Constantinople, Smyrna was a more relaxed version of the city.
This is where (according to most sources) modern Greek and Turkish music cross pollinated the most
When the Asia Minor Greek refugees had to leave Smyrna and live in mainland Greece, they brought with them old folk songs that used to be sung in Greek and Turkish.
This music was primarily frowned upon in Greece until eventually it became part of the musical fabric of Greece
Music from Smyrna contained many cultural influences such as Romani, Arab, Jewish, Italian, Greek and of course Turkish. The music reflected the land it came from, it was a melting pot of influences
Expression “Aman Aman” and “yalla” were often used
The impact of music from Smyrna (Smyrneika) is still being felt in Greece and Turkey. Greek and Turkish artists continue to sing these shared old songs from then until now.
Just like Baklava, the origins of many of these folk songs are unclear. No one really cares though
Now finally I can share with you just some of the songs that belong to both Greeks and Turks as a collective.
Some are timeless classics and some are terrible pop music. Either way our shared musical heritage can not be ignored.
This “free Constantinople” bullshit is getting out of hand
1) if you’re not Greek, shut the fuck up. Especially if you’re European because your ancestors were the first ones who raped murdered and pillaged the Greek citizens of Constantinople before
Ottomans arrived
2) it was 1453 when it happened so unless you’re willing to fight for all national borders to return to how they were in 1453 shut the fuck up about Constantinople. Especially if you’re posting “free Constantinople” from your American home. Give that back to the natives first
3) it was a fall of an empire. Meaning the Byzantine empire did the same shit the Ottoman Empire did, just before them. What you think, Byzantine empire everyone toasted marshmallows around a campfire while signing songs? No it was brutal just like Ottoman Empire or any empire
In 1923, 2 million Greek 🇬🇷 refugees (who had never lived in Greece) came to Greece from Asia Minor🇹🇷
They moved into the city slums and brought their eastern style music with them
Drugs, prostitution and crime were themes in their songs AND lives
It wasn’t always like this. Many of the Greek refugees had thriving businesses back in Turkey and lived better than most Greeks in Greece. However after many wars and the population exchange of 1922, every Greek in Turkey had to leave suddenly, taking whatever they could carry
When they arrived in Greece, the refugees were subject to much abuse. They were fluent in Turkish as well as Greek. Their dialect of Greek was different so they were seen as Turks. The derogatory name “tourkosporoi” (Turkish seed) was used to insult them.