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May 31, 2021 17 tweets 5 min read Read on X
If I had one wish, it would be for high schools to eliminate half of their Advanced Placement courses.🧵
As test optional admissions shifts the focus onto course selection and grades, we need to be intentional to not replace the testing arms-race for an emphasis on number of AP/Dual Credit/IB/Honors courses or extra-curriculars.
I recently got an email from a high school thinking of cutting some of their 30+ AP/Honors classes. They are admirably trying to address issues of equity within their courses while trying to address concerns about their students not being as competitive for admission.
Context matters. There are HUGE variations in curriculum, rigor, and GPA weights across high schools. Just look at the differences in English course titles at Illinois high schools from this year's applicants. Image
In every parent night I've ever done, I've been asked, "How many AP classes should my student take?" Parents want a number.
AP/Dual Credit/IB classes are great ways for students to prepare for the academic rigors of college, but there is a tipping point.
Beard et al. (2019) suggest that taking one AP class improves first-year grades and likelihood of degree attainment, but improvements top out at 4-6 AP classes. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.111…
Similarly, @UNCAdmissions (2013) identified a tipping point of diminishing return in first-year GPA after taking 5 college-level courses in high school. files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ101… Image
We can't just encourage students to only take 5 AP classes. As long as the courses are offered, I will quote @taraMaustin here, "calling something optional doesn't actually make it so." How can colleges better communicate our expectations for course rigor?
Some students feel pressure to stand out among their peers by taking as many rigorous classes as possible. In doing so, there is a very real trade-off on students' mental health.
I'm not saying AP classes are bad. I would love to see some schools given more resources to expand AP/Honors to help close gaps in math and science preparation. After all...
...the State of Illinois holds the dubious rank of being the most inequitable in the U.S. for K-12 funding, where differences in ed spending (from property taxes) accounts for 83% of the variation in academic proficiency levels across grade levels. ler.illinois.edu/wp-content/upl…
I'm just saying, students do not need to take Multivariate Calculus or Differential Equations in high school. Even if students can handle it, building a solid math foundation is far more important for future success. Those classes will be available once students get to college.
Holistic admissions considers the degree of rigor attempted by a student in relation to other students at that same high school, based on what level and quantity of rigor *is available* at the school.
Offering fewer AP classes shifts the onerous task to the colleges to perform more careful review of context without the crutch of number of AP classes as a sorting mechanism.
I would implore high schools to do a deep dive into their AP/Honors offerings and explore differences in who gets the opportunity to take these classes.
I bet you will find that more is not necessarily better.

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With the intention of moving away from the middle 50% of SAT/ACT scores, we are exploring different ways to provide information to students, parents, and counselors about who gets admitted to UIUC.

This is a thread about Language Other Than English and college admissions.🧵
Who gets admitted to UIUC? We want to explore new ways to show who gets admitted by breaking down certain components of our application process, such as our expectation for students to take a language other than English in high school.
Most students admitted to UIUC (66.2%) took 4 levels or more of a language other than English.

36.5% took more than 4 levels, 85.3% took 3 or more levels, and 98.5% took 2 or more levels.
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This quote came from a report by @Justequations & @NACAC which raises an important question about the role of calculus in admissions justequations.org/wp-content/upl…
Yes, calculus should continue to be the default recommendation for students who are interested in STEM majors. I will agree with that recommendation, but I want to offer that the emphasis should be that students are *ready to begin* calculus in college. insidehighered.com/admissions/art…
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Should I send my ACT/SAT? I thought I would share some insights on this question in an attempt to add some transparency.
Submitting your test scores improves your chances of being admitted in the same way that eating more mozzarella improves your chances of earning a doctorate in civil engineering. The two may be related but not causal. Source: tylervigen.com/spurious-corre… Image
I'm going to attempt to show how flawed metrics of "who gets admitted" may lead you to an false conclusion. Cartoon by #xkcd Image
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Feb 23, 2022
The only admission decision harder to understand than being denied is being waitlisted. I want to offer some context about waitlists.
The most common question I hear is, "What are my chances of being admitted off the waitlist?"
Just for some peace of mind, most universities who have a waitlist also have what's called a "Common Data Set." Waitlist statistics are part of that data set. This can provide some context for how schools have used their list in the past years. Keep in mind each year is different
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Jan 31, 2022
Many universities have more applications/fewer staff to read files and are bracing for uncertainty. This may lead to larger waitlists/more deferrals and cause students greater anxiety. Pro tip: You can't predict admission decisions. 🧵
tl;dr The denominator is getting bigger (apps), the numerator MAY be getting smaller (enroll targets), fewer people are available to read apps, and colleges will likely guard against over- and under-enrolling (larger waitlists).
More Applications: Compared to 2019, @CommonApp apps are up almost 20% with bigger increases at publics and more rejective colleges. s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/ca.research.pu…
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In honor of several universities releasing admission decisions today, I offer some selected quotes from an article: nytimes.com/1970/03/13/arc…
"As the officials plow through the thousands of applications, recommendations and test scores, youngsters and parents bite their nails waiting to see if they have beaten the mysterious system and been chosen by the college of their choice."
"It is probably easier to get into college these days, but harder to [be admitted to] your first choice."
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