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Jun 15, 2021 18 tweets 10 min read Read on X
Recently, Amnesty International released a report on the situation in Xinjiang, recommending that China "immediately release all persons held in internment camps or other detention facilities – including prisons – in Xinjiang...". This is my review of it. xinjiang.amnesty.org
First, let's look at the title and note 2 important things:
1) It doesn't use the word "genocide"; and
2) It doesn't use the word "Uyghur".

Instead, it refers to 3 potential Crimes Against Humanity (CAH) and Muslims as a whole.
Whilst this allows them to avoid the obvious problems with the genocide claim (see thread below), it creates new problems for Amnesty to answer. For example, why is the persecution limited to Muslims in Xinjiang? Why not all of China?

Amnesty admits on Page 13 that their report is not a proper investigation, but a documentation of unproved allegations. Indeed, the report only includes rehashes of past articles and quotes from anonymous interviewees, without giving concrete statistics to support their claims.
Interestingly, most of the interviewees were not Uyghurs, but Kazakhs. This could explain why they couldn't use "Uyghur genocide" in their title, because the evidence was so thin. The interviewee's details were not disclosed, so it's impossible to determine their reliability.
These depictions of Xinjiang (on p.12 and p.130-131) show that the report is inaccurate. Many YouTubers have done videos from inside Xinjiang recently, showing freedom of movement. @DanielDumbrill @JaYoeLife @Jingjing_Li @Noel_Calibre @ChinaTeacher1 @Gweilo60 @Jerry_grey2002
Let's look at the merits of their claim. A number of acts would qualify as CAH under the Rome Statute Article 7.1 (screenshotted). The general elements required to prove CAH are also screenshotted below. There are also specific requirements, which will be examined in turn.
The first charge is arbitrary imprisonment. Aside from the general requirements mentioned above, there also needs to be proof that there is no internationally accepted legal basis for the deprivation of liberty.
icty.org/x/cases/krnoje…
The Background section (starting p.19) actually documents the historical incidents that directly led to what's happening now. Anti-terrorism operations are allowed under international norms. Therefore, restrictions to liberty in current terrorism prevention campaigns are not CAH.
It's interesting that Amnesty doesn't mention the terrorist organization behind the attacks (ETIM), they are more concerned with freedoms of potential terrorists over lives of citizens, and they don't directly address the elements required to prove CAH of arbitrary imprisonment.
The next charge is torture. When we read their section devoted to torture, we find that the first hand accounts of torture tallied by Amnesty is "more than a dozen", with some from "journalists" and many from XJ Victims Database, including some widely discredited accounts.
They described but didn't count cases that were witnessed by their interviewees and other hearsay testimonies. Amnesty claims that there are "millions" being detained in XJ, so even if we accept all these accounts without challenge, total tortured represent ~0.002% of detainees.
To me this is a statistical anomaly more likely to be isolated cases, rather than representative of the whole, which means the requirement that the torture be "widespread or systematic" is not satisfied. Amnesty claims these are not random events, but provides no proof.
The final charge is persecution. In addition to the standard elements, there is a special mental element of intent required to prove persecution. As Amnesty doesn't address this element at all, there is no justification for the charge of persecution.
icty.org/x/cases/kordic…
Aside from the CAH claims, Amnesty also makes forced labour claims. However, some of the stories provided are less than incriminating. We must remember that these are amongst the worst accounts Amnesty gathered, so the typical experience would sound even less concerning.
Finally, there's this reference to the SUPChina article on interethnic marriages, which has been cited in numerous reports previously. This article is so badly written and nonsensical, that no reputable report should reference it and I vow to show you why in an upcoming thread.
All in all, this Amnesty report doesn't provide any new evidence and does a poor job of justifying its claims. Unfortunately, it is now added to the list of useless reports that will be cited as "evidence" in future reports, just like how this report cited others before it.
Sorry...second picture didn't copy properly first time. The complete picture clearly shows barriers to entry from the rest of China as well, which is clearly not true.

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We often hear about China's "Century of Humiliation", with discussions on Western platforms being extremely superficial and lacking in any background.

I thought I'd share examples that illustrate why it still resonates with Chinese people.

1st up, Six Steeds of Zhao Mausoleum.
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Unsurprisingly, the Western media has now jumped on the "China's not ready" bandwagon, salivating at the prospect of a high body count.

Here are my thoughts.
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This is a thread to question the latest UN report on the Xinjiang situation.

There's a lot of suspicious elements in the report that calls into question its objectivity and legitimacy.

Given the report itself references tweets, I hope the UN will respond to this thread.
1. Who wrote this report?

Assuming that the report was released simultaneously with the QT above, then the report was released at 12:20am Geneva time on 1 Sept and 6:20pm US EST on 31 Aug 2022. This means Bachelet's term was technically over. The OHCHR is located in Geneva...
...so the report was technically released on 1 Sept, instead of the stamped date, 31 Aug.

There's also no usual reference to the High Commissioner, Secretary General or Bachelet at the start of the report, in contrast to other reports from OHCHR. Compare the screenshots below. ImageImageImageImage
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Dec 11, 2021
This is a thread to examine the ASPI report on Cultural Erasure in Xinjiang:
aspi.org.au/report/cultura…

I will focus on the problems in the methodology and statistics, rather than the conclusions and examples, but it would follow that those are wrong, due to the bad methodology. Image
Before diving right in, let's note that even ASPI recognizes on p5 that for many mosques, the dome and minarets are very recent additions, which automatically destroys the narrative that "traditional" culture is being eliminated because domes and minarets are being removed now. Image
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I want to try something a little different this time. Instead of looking at a particular document, I want to look at a particular claim: “cultural genocide”.

This claim is frequently made, but when examined in detail, it is even more baseless than the genocide claim.
"Cultural genocide" is often used as an easier-to-prove alternative to genocide. But, there are many cultural elements which are thankfully gone, e.g. virgin sacrifices to the gods. Therefore, a value judgment is required to prove this claim, which is not required for genocide.
From affirmative action to requirements for mask wearing, people have been asked to change behaviour to fit the times. Given culture is closely tied to behaviour, it can be argued that each change replaces an old culture with a new one. The question is whether this is desirable.
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