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Aug 24, 2021 14 tweets 5 min read Read on X
With over $84 million in lifetime sales, @ConvertKit is my biggest product success—but it's far from my first product.

It's easy to share wins, but building in public means sharing the full journey. So here are the 10 products I created before hitting it big with ConvertKit:

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1. Shoestring — A budget web hosting company using WordPress multi-user to easily setup websites for people on a shoestring budget. I didn't get any customers, but I learned a lot about WordPress.

Revenue: $0
Shop208 — A local social network for the Boise area with business profiles, the ability to follow a business, write reviews, read updates, etc. Built on WordPress & BuddyPress. It got about 200 users, but no meaningful revenue. Marketplaces are hard!

Revenue: $0
3. OneMotion — A web app for sign language interpreting agencies. I was hired to build a custom app for $10k, the client got all the rights for their business, I retained the rights to sell to other agencies. I only ever got 1 other client.

Revenue: $300/month
4. Legend Themes — I took my WP knowledge and started building themes to sell. I wanted to build a similar business to OGs like @bgardner & @adii. I sold two themes, struggled to get traction, and decided that the space was oversaturated (a ridiculous idea in 2009).

Revenue: $70
5. OneVoice — My first iOS app, OneVoice was built for kids with non-verbal autism. I started it at a hackathon at the PayPal offices in San Jose, then finished it over the next few months. It was my first real product success!

Revenue: $50,000+ (over 4 years)
6. Fluent — Eager to continue learning iOS development I built a delayed repetition flashcards app called Fluent. It never really got traction, but I got a lot better at programming.

Revenue: $75
7. Commit — As I was getting into writing I made a habit tracking app called Commit. It was the tool I used to stay on track to build a writing streak of over 600 days in a row. I marketed the app and got good coverage in Lifehacker and other publications.

Revenue: $20,000+
8. iOS Design Weekly — My very first email newsletter (inspired by Dave Verwer's iOS Dev Weekly). It never made money, but I grew it to just over 1,000 subscribers before pivoting to focus on books.

Revenue: $0
9. The App Design Handbook — This is the product that really put me on the map. Through writing, publishing, and launching I learned a ton and found a replicable process for earning a living as a creator. Then sharing my journey publicly built a following.

Revenue: $90,000+
10. Designing Web Applications — I immediately turned what I learned from my first book into writing a second. The launch was twice as big and the book continued to sell well.

Revenue: $200,000+
11. ConvertKit — There it is! My 11th product ended up being the one that turned into a product used by hundreds of thousands of creators and sending billions of emails per month.

Here's a screenshot of an early homepage.

Revenue: $84 million
Even being my 11th product ConvertKit didn't take off right away. It took two years before we crossed $2,000 in MRR.

I kept making products (Authority, Photoshop for Web Design, etc) to pay the bills and finance development while slowly working to get traction.
It's okay if your first product flops. Earning a living online is a combination of a thousand little skills that take time to learn.

The only thing you can control is to create every day for a long time. Stay consistent, keep learning, and you'll eventually win.

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Jun 6
Big news: We’re rebranding!

ConvertKit is becoming Kit.

Read on for why it’s more than just a name change…
The creator economy has evolved a lot since ConvertKit began 11 years ago. And we’ve evolved with it.

Our platform has grown far beyond helping creators convert audience members into customers.

We now help you connect, grow, automate, launch, create, earn and so much more.
As Kit, our product philosophy is all about scalability and giving you actionable insights to grow your business.

Each creator business is unique, so the features in your Kit can be tailored just for you.

Besides making improvements to the features you love, we’re doing more…
Read 14 tweets
Apr 18
In the last 7 years, we’ve paid $6.9 million in profit sharing to the ConvertKit team.

While most companies hope to return money to shareholders in a moonshot acquisition, we’ve created a unique model to help our team think like owners.

Here’s how our compensation model works:
Our mission is to help creators earn a living. That’s why ConvertKit exists.

My personal mission extends beyond that—I want everyone in my life to have the opportunity to become financially independent.

That means everyone at ConvertKit should have a path to financial freedom.
VC-backed startups tend to go all in on equity and an exit as the path to financial freedom.

Bootstrapped companies (e.g. MailChimp, Basecamp) don’t give out equity and instead focus on paying high salaries.

Neither model is ideal for team members.
Read 20 tweets
Oct 11, 2023
In 2021, Spotify reached out to buy @ConvertKit for hundreds of millions.

I said no.

Instead we came up with an innovative way to get liquidity for our team:
ConvertKit is an email marketing platform for creators.

I started it in 2013 with a goal to solve my frustrations with other email tools.

When it grew, I figured I’d sell it after a year or two.

Then I fell in love with our product, team, & customers.

I never wanted to sell.
Founders like DHH and Jason from Basecamp said that equity in a private company doesn’t have value if you aren’t going to sell.

I’d learned so much from them and that logic made sense, so once I decided not to sell I didn’t issue equity to the team.
Read 18 tweets
Jul 21, 2023
Becoming a creator will change your life.

Here are 13 tips to make the switch from a consumer to a creator:
Set a Daily “Make Something” Goal

Grab a sticky note and write “make something today--stick it to your computer monitor.

Your goal is simply to make something--anything--every single day.

Set the bar low and make it achievable.

Creation will start to become a habit.
Document What You Make

Start documenting your daily creation.

Post it online with a few sentences about what it means to you.

Was it an idea floating around in your head for months? A mini essay you've been meaning to write? Code that you finally figured out?

Document it.
Read 15 tweets
Jun 23, 2023
I made $37,000 in the first month of selling my ebook.

But I almost made a $10,000+ mistake.

Here’s a lesson on pricing that’ll make you thousands:
In 2012, I launched my first product, The App Design Handbook.

But in a hurry to get the product out the door, I almost made a costly mistake…

It’s a mistake I see entrepreneurs make every single day.
It’s not charging too little for your product.

(Although this is a common mistake as well)

It’s only having one price for your product!
Read 17 tweets
Jun 9, 2023
I’m excited to announce we just acquired @SparkLoopHQ which is going to allow creators to make a living in a totally new way.

Here’s why this acquisition is a game changer for the creator economy: Image
SparkLoop’s Partner Network is the #1 newsletter growth platform.

After building a deep integration, we got so excited about the potential, we decided to bring them into the ConvertKit family to build the largest advertising network for creators.

Here’s why this is so exciting: Image
Traditionally, creators spend money on advertising to grow faster.

But this is inefficient and expensive. You try to get people to click an ad to go to a landing page. Only a few subscribe, and only some subscribers become engaged.

There are two big problems with this: Image
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