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Aug 25, 2021 16 tweets 7 min read Read on X
As the evidence supporting ivermectin as COVID treatment collapses, you might expect *less* certainty from the drug’s evangelists.

Instead they’ve doubled down on ivermectin.

It’s worth reading this passage from Festinger’s Theory of Cognitive Dissonance to understand:
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For context, Festinger & colleagues joined a cult (“The Seekers”) who believed the world would end on December 21, 1954 & that true believers would be rescued by a UFO

The researchers wondered how the Seekers would react to “disconfirmation” when this didn’t happen.
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As the date approached, the researchers watched many “Seekers” take irrevocable steps because of their belief: they quit their jobs, severed ties to loved ones, & disposed of possessions.

What would happen when their beliefs were discredited?
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When 12/21/54 came and went without the promised apocalypse, they observed that rather than abandoning their discredited beliefs, the “Seekers” adhered to them even *more strongly* & began to proselytize *more fervently*.

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Examining the Seekers & other examples, Festinger & colleagues theorized that in order to resolve the dissonance between belief & reality, believers sometimes become more fervent in their belief (discounting reality).

They observed 5 conditions that make this more likely:
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Now consider the experience of ivermectin believers:
- many of the initial studies supporting IVM have been discredited as fraudulent (Surgisphere, Elegazzar, Cadegiani)
- several large RCTs have found no benefit to IVM (EPIC, TOGETHER, IVERCORCOVID)
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nature.com/articles/d4158…
- a reputable meta-analysis by Cochrane (the gold standard) concluded “the reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19”

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cochranelibrary.com/content?templa…
- multiple state & federal agencies (FDA, CDC, NIH, etc) have warned people explicitly NOT to take ivermectin
- the rampant use of veterinary ivermectin has led to a surge in poisonings. (Last week >70% of calls to poison control center in MS were about ivermectin)
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- And finally, the rapid development of safe, highly effective, & widely available vaccines has eliminated the raison d'être of IVM as a “bridge to vaccines”

In light of all this evidence “disconfirming” IVM, why do its proponents cling to it all the more fervently?
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If we look at Festinger’s 5 conditions, we can see that all are met:
1. The core believers (FLCCC, BIRD, etc) are deeply & publicly committed to this belief. One has testified before Congress that IVM is a “wonder drug” & “miracle cure.” Others have built a brand on IVM.

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2. Believers in IVM have invested all of their reputation in the belief. Most have lost the respect of colleagues. At least one has stopped practicing medicine to focus exclusively on promoting IVM as a cure.
For many it would be hard, or impossible, to undo these effects.
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3&4. At least a dozen large high quality RCTs of IVM are ongoing. Each is explicitly testing whether IVM can prevent or treat COVID.

Each can potentially falsify the belief that IVM prevents/cures COVID (and several already have).
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5. Although some people, confronted by the overwhelmingly negative evidence, have stopped believing in IVM, most have stayed committed to the core belief and the group.

Having invested so much time & reputation, many find it is hard to just walk away.
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The core IVM believers have taken on increasingly anti-vaxx conspiracy theorist beliefs:
- Not only do they discount the mounting negative studies of IVM but they allege a massive global cabal of governments, big tech, & pharma to encourage vaccination and “suppress the cure”
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What will happen?

Faced with “disconfirmation” & increasing cognitive dissonance most cults eventually collapse.

After the world didn’t end on 12/21/54, the “Seekers” rescheduled the apocalypse to Christmas Eve. When 12/25 came & went, most members returned to their lives.
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I suspect the same will occur with the #CultOfIvermectin

Recall that a founder of FLCCC claimed to have “cured sepsis” a few yrs ago. In light of negative RCTs that cult/belief also collapsed

The question is how many will be harmed along the way?
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If you intubate you need to read the #PREOXI trial!
-n=1301 people requiring intubation in ED/ ICU were randomized to preoxygenation with oxygen mask vs non-invasive ventilation (NIV)
-NIV HALVED the risk of hypoxemia: 9 vs 18%
-NIV reduced mortality: 0.2% vs 1.1%

#CCR24
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Hypoxemia (SpO2 <85%) occurs in 10-20% of ED & ICU intubations.

1-2% of intubations performed in ED/ICU result in cardiac arrest!

This is an exceptionally dangerous procedure and preoxygenation is essential to keep patients safe.

But what’s the *BEST* way to preoxygenate?
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Most people use a non-rebreather oxygen mask, but because of its loose fit it often delivers much less than 100% FiO2.

NIV (“BiPAP”) delivers a higher FiO2 because of its tight fit. It also delivers PEEP & achieves a higher mean airway pressure which is theoretically helpful!
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Results from #PROTECTION presented #CCR24 & published @NEJM.
- DB RCT of amino acid infusion vs placebo in n=3511 people undergoing cardiac surgery w/ bypass.
- Reduced incidence of AKI (26.9% vs 31.7% NNT=20) & need for RRT (1.4% vs 1.9% NNT=200)

Potential game changer!

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I work in a busy CVICU & I often see AKI following cardiac surgery.

Despite risk stratification & hemodynamic optimization, AKI remains one of the most common complications after cardiac surgery with bypass.

Even a modest reduction in AKI/CRRT would be great for my patients.
2/ From Nature reviews nephrology  https://www.nature.com/articles/nrneph.2017.119
During cardiac surgery w/ bypass, renal blood flow (RBF) is reduced dramatically. This causes injury, especially in susceptible individuals.

But what if we could use physiology to protect the kidneys?

Renal blood vessels dilate after a high protein meal increasing RBF & GFR!
3/ https://www.jtcvs.org/article/S0022-5223(18)33243-4/fulltext
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A slightly tricky blood gas case:

77 yo with respiratory distress, RR 30, SpO2 80% on non-rebreather at 15 lpm

CXR & TTE are unrevealing

pH 7.58 / PaCO2 24 / PaO2 >500 / HCO3 22

MetHb 0% CarboxyHb 0%

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The answer is sulfhemoglobinemia.

Sulfhemoglobinemia is a *permanently* modified hemoglobin associated with exposure to TMP/SMX, dapsone, phenazopyridine, & other amino & nitro compounds.

It has an altered oxy-hemoglobin dissociation curve.

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Sulfhemoglobinemia is easily confused with methemoglobinemia. Both have very dark colored blood & present with cyanosis. Diagnosis typically requires a specialized lab.

Spoiler: you may have heard that SulfHb is green. It isn’t really. You’re thinking of Vulcans’ blood.

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This story is absolutely shocking.

Philip Morris International (PMI) spent millions to influence medical education by buying a series of “CMEs” at Medscape!

How else has big tobacco tried to normalize vaping & influence the medical community?

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theexamination.org/articles/medsc…
Recently it was revealed that Philip Morris International (PMI) had SPONSORED CME materials about smokeless tobacco products on Medscape.

I had the opportunity to review these “CME” materials & they are pretty shocking!
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One truly incredible thing about this “CME” was that it has NO DISCLOSURE SLIDE!

The fact that people teaching about vaping don’t disclose their financial ties to the tobacco industry is absolutely bonkers!

Why isn’t there a sunshine act for this?
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Damn. Under Trump the White House Medical Unit was a pill-mill. Thousands of ambien & provigil per month.

Worse, for a clinic that doesn’t typically do procedures w/ moderate sedation they sure are they ordering prodigious quantities of morphine, fentanyl, versed, & ketamine…? Image
Honestly, this reminds me of Norman Ohler’s Blitzed.
The AG report was largely concerned with the enormous cost of prescribing these non-genetic meds.

It’s worth pointing out that dispensing prescription meds without documentation is malpractice. In the case of controlled substances it’s also likely a crime.
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A previously healthy 17yo presents with dyspnea, frothy sputum, & orthopnea that began after playing hockey.

In the ED he is tachycardic, tachypneic, mildly hypoxic. He has crackles bilaterally.

Dx?
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Before we get to the diagnosis, Inhalation of which of the following could explain his symptoms?

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The answer is ZAMBONI DISEASE!

Poorly maintained combustion engines produce carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NO₂), & other volatile organic compounds.

These compounds are heavier than air.

To avoiding melting the ice, there is often minimal ventilation in ice rinks.
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