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Sep 4, 2021 19 tweets 7 min read Read on X
Is this book "A practical guide to transgender law" just passing as a serious law book?

It makes big claims to distinguish between unfounded views of the current law and the "true state"...

amazon.co.uk/Practical-Guid…
As the foreword notes Robin Moira White has an obvious personal interest in laws and rules that would make it difficult for women to say no sharing single sex spaces with males

Nevertheless claim to have set out the law as it currently is, and not just wishful thinking....
Kate from South Uist thinks it is jolly good.

Who is Kate? 🤨
Barrister Naomi Cunningham of @legalfeminist thinks it is awful and has published an unsparing point-by-point review which sets out why ...

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/02/a-p…
At this point one would expect legal twitter to jump in with some debate, because what the law says matters.

But of course no not on this topic
There is so much wishful thinking in the book.

As Naomi notes the authors dismiss the binding judgment of the High Court in Corbett v Corbett in favour of, what? ... hairstyles and clothing
And self ID .
They slip between concepts all over the place.

Of course M&S don't say "affirmed gender" or "acquired gender" or inquire after anyone's intimate operations (that would be inappropriate)
What M&S actually say is that they don't have men and women's changing rooms anymore but allow people to use the changing rooms they prefer.

Women and girls who want to try on underwear without sharing space with males - sorry you have to shop somewhere else.
The authors say there is a question here...
But then they say that if your answer to that question is involves sticking with clear sex definitions then you have any rights and employers can fire you.

So best keep quiet and put up with it.
That comes from my case of course.

The book seems to have been rushed out before the appeal judgment in order to include their preferred, detailed discussion of the first instance judgment...

... which is now of course out of date
The authors have released an update (although it is very hard to find)

Out with the old. In with the new...

translegalproject.org/post/a-practic…
But the conclusions on belief barely change. It turns out the threshold for a protected belief is *much* lower than Whit and Newbegin thought but still they are advising that any expression of gender critical belief is likely to be grounds for termination
Then there is this misinterpretation of the law and of my judgment.

"holding the belief is protected rather than manifesting it".... this is the kind of thing people say on Twitter.

You wouldn't expect it from two discrimination lawyers
This is what para 78 actually says...
In other words the manifestation of gender critical beliefs is protected just as much as the manifestation of other beliefs such Judaism, Catholicism, ethical veganism or any other protected belief (including gender ideology).
That is if your employer has a policy that disadvantages someone manifesting their belief then that could be indirect discrimination (but there is a defence to that that the policy may be a proportionate means to a legitimate aim)
& there we get to the crux of it... is it legal to exclude anyone who says male people are male, in situations where sex matters, from the ability to earn a living?
Or should employers consider both the rights of transgender people & others when those rights come into conflict?

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May 16
There has been much sound and fury about the Supreme Court judgment and claims that it is very *difficult* to tell who should use which toilets.

Remember: this has always been the law.
Back in 2003 a group of transexual men sued a pub after it asked them not to use the ladies.

They were backed by the Equal Opportunities Commission.

They lost.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/n…Image
Then there was the case of Croft v Royal Mail.

Father of 3 Nicholas Simpson became Sarah Croft. He wanted to use the ladies at work. His employer said no.

He sued (again with support of EOC) and lost.

a-question-of-consent.net/2020/08/16/cro…Image
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May 11
This, by one of the Darlington nurses is heartbreaking (CW: CSA)

Women should not have to tell these stories to get the basic dignity that is their right under workplace health and safety law.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
This is what we mean when we say sex matters. It is what the Supreme Court meant when they said you have to be clear about what the different groups are.

It's not a legal nicety. It's not complex. It's not difficult.

It's just basic respect for women's humanity, with common sense.Image
I am so angry at all the highly paid people failing to do their job, who would not see that it is abusive to allow men into women's changing rooms, toilets and showers.

And even now who are resisting implementing the law. @NotPostingMatt @NHSConfed Image
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May 7
Minister @RhonddaBryant says “We are opposing the amendment and are not intending to introduce similar legislation.”

Let’s look at the knots he ties himself in

He says “data accuracy is important. That is equally true for any data used in a digital verification service.”

OK so your new law will enable people to prove their sex accurately then? 🤔
Bryant says “the government is already developing data standards on the monitoring of diversity information, including sex, via the Data Standards Authority.”

This is distraction.

Monitoring diversity information (which is about populations) is not the only reason why you want sex data.
Some times people want to make sure their sex is accurately recorded:

- For their own healthcare
- For social care
- For a job where sex matters
- For sport
- For safeguarding
- For use of single sex services
“the @StatsRegulation published updated guidance on collecting and reporting data and statistics about sex and gender identity last year, and all Govt Departments are now considering how best to address the recommendations of the Sullivan review, which we published.”

“That is the first reason why we will not be supporting this new clause or the amendment today.”
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May 4
A 🧵about signs.

What do I mean by this sign excludes all men?

I mean the sign itself is discriminatory. Image
It says women only, which means no men.
It is lawful because the situation meets one or more of the “gateway conditions” for a lawful single sex service in the EqA, and it is a proportionate means to a legitimate aim.
Who does the sign discriminate against? 

Men directly.

What all of them?

Yes, because they are all excluded by the rule. Even the femmes, the crossdressers, the transwomen, the non-binaries and the gender fluids.
Read 31 tweets
May 1
Here we are at @LSELaw for a legal panel discussion on the FWS case. Video will be available later. Image
Naomi Cunningham says the ruling changes very little .. and it changes everything. Image
Under the old understanding there was a route to exclude men with GRCs from women only services but it was unclear and uncertain. It sounded difficult to operate. And the @EHRC statutory code said case by case.
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Apr 28
Wow...

So the lineage of that policy that Sussex University has just been fined £0.5m for goes back via Advance HE and the Equality Challenge Unit to the SWP! 🤯
The Sussex policy comes almost word for word from the ECU policy which is based on the Association of Colleges Policy 2005 Image
Which Dave Renton said he drafted with SWP Laura Miles (author of Transgender Resistance: socialism and the fight for trans liberation) Image
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