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Sep 4, 2021 19 tweets 7 min read Read on X
Is this book "A practical guide to transgender law" just passing as a serious law book?

It makes big claims to distinguish between unfounded views of the current law and the "true state"...

amazon.co.uk/Practical-Guid…
As the foreword notes Robin Moira White has an obvious personal interest in laws and rules that would make it difficult for women to say no sharing single sex spaces with males

Nevertheless claim to have set out the law as it currently is, and not just wishful thinking....
Kate from South Uist thinks it is jolly good.

Who is Kate? 🤨
Barrister Naomi Cunningham of @legalfeminist thinks it is awful and has published an unsparing point-by-point review which sets out why ...

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/02/a-p…
At this point one would expect legal twitter to jump in with some debate, because what the law says matters.

But of course no not on this topic
There is so much wishful thinking in the book.

As Naomi notes the authors dismiss the binding judgment of the High Court in Corbett v Corbett in favour of, what? ... hairstyles and clothing
And self ID .
They slip between concepts all over the place.

Of course M&S don't say "affirmed gender" or "acquired gender" or inquire after anyone's intimate operations (that would be inappropriate)
What M&S actually say is that they don't have men and women's changing rooms anymore but allow people to use the changing rooms they prefer.

Women and girls who want to try on underwear without sharing space with males - sorry you have to shop somewhere else.
The authors say there is a question here...
But then they say that if your answer to that question is involves sticking with clear sex definitions then you have any rights and employers can fire you.

So best keep quiet and put up with it.
That comes from my case of course.

The book seems to have been rushed out before the appeal judgment in order to include their preferred, detailed discussion of the first instance judgment...

... which is now of course out of date
The authors have released an update (although it is very hard to find)

Out with the old. In with the new...

translegalproject.org/post/a-practic…
But the conclusions on belief barely change. It turns out the threshold for a protected belief is *much* lower than Whit and Newbegin thought but still they are advising that any expression of gender critical belief is likely to be grounds for termination
Then there is this misinterpretation of the law and of my judgment.

"holding the belief is protected rather than manifesting it".... this is the kind of thing people say on Twitter.

You wouldn't expect it from two discrimination lawyers
This is what para 78 actually says...
In other words the manifestation of gender critical beliefs is protected just as much as the manifestation of other beliefs such Judaism, Catholicism, ethical veganism or any other protected belief (including gender ideology).
That is if your employer has a policy that disadvantages someone manifesting their belief then that could be indirect discrimination (but there is a defence to that that the policy may be a proportionate means to a legitimate aim)
& there we get to the crux of it... is it legal to exclude anyone who says male people are male, in situations where sex matters, from the ability to earn a living?
Or should employers consider both the rights of transgender people & others when those rights come into conflict?

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Peter Wilkins case exposes another public body (this one part of @DefenceHQ) that lost sight of the Equality Act and of civil service principles of impartiality and objectivity.

One colleague accused him of making a "threatening" FOI request when he tried to draw attention to @dstlmod 's Line Manager’s Guide.

The FOI was turned down but I tried again.
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I said "have another look, its on your intranet" and they located it.

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Finally they decided they couldn't

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In all its glory.

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Jul 22
Judgment in the case of Peter Wilkins v @dstlmod finally published.

It is quite a read.
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DSTL run the MOD research centre at Porton Down.

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The action starts not long after the Forstater EAT judgment.

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The old flag is flying prominently Image
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Jul 3
The nomination of Mary-Ann Stephenson as new chair of the EHRC brought the witch hunters out.

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