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Oct 6, 2021 37 tweets 13 min read Read on X
Q: How have the valuations of the largest financial services firms fared over the last 3 years?

A: Not great (data below)

We're seeing a dramatic changing of the guard in financial services

It was happening gradually

Now, it's happening suddenly

Here's why
2/ First, a framework to evaluate this through courtesy of Ernest Hemingway in The Sun Also Rises where he asks

"How did you go bankrupt?" Image
3/ The answer

"To ways...Gradually and then suddenly"

This is the creative destruction we're seeing in financial services right now Image
4/ We all know software is eating the world

It's been happening for a while

But here's the data

In 2006, 1 of the 5 most valuable cos was a tech co
In 2011, it was still 1
In 2016, tech ran the table Image
5/ What's even wilder is the picture in 2021

Tech just keeps winning

Oil & gas, financial services, etc are nowhere to be found Image
6/ Financial services firms saw this and started talking about becoming more technology forward

This is from my @CBinsights Future of Fintech keynote in 2018 Image
7/ In 2018, they started to see their competitive set be redrawn

I used to work at American Express and when I was there, we talked about our competitors being Citi, Visa, Mastercard, Cap One, etc

Now it's Paypal, Stripe, Affirm, etc Image
8/ But in 2018, when I talked about Gradually Then Suddenly coming to financial services, it felt like we were still in the "gradually" part

What does that look like?

Here's an example. See if you can name the company (it's not from financial services)

Stock chart below Image
9/ This is their stock chart in the "gradual" part of their decline Image
10/ After that 21 month gradual decline, they hit suddently cratering in 5 months

Know who this is? Image
11/ That company was Blackberry / Research in Motion

Look at these headlines right before the sudden fall Image
12/ But you'll argue that financial services firms are different

It's highly regulated, they have moats, they have massive balance sheets, they have brands, etc

True but that's not enough

Suddenly is here for financial services

Why? 2 reasons
13/ Those 2 reasons:

1. An absolute flood of fintech innovation capital
2. The great financial services unbundling

Let's unpack those a bit Image
14/ Before I get into why this capital is so important, it's worth paring this with the fact that it's become cheaper to create a startup

AWS, Azure, No-code, Low-code, etc have made the building part cheaper

That means more insurgents can start up Image
15/ Fintech startups have APIs, embedded finance, BaaS, open banking protocols, etc as well

But they have an absolute deluge of capital coming their way

In Q2'21, $1 of every $5 venture dollars went to fintech ($33.7B) Image
16/ This capital is also coming from the smartest investors out there a la @sequoia @Accel @a16z @IndexVentures @RibbitCapital Image
17/ And they and others are funding an increasingly global set of fintech companies Image
18/ All of this has made fintech the #1 category for unicorns Image
19/ So we have smart founders paired with smart investors tackling a giant market

Add in recent successful fintech exits which ultimately serve to spur more financing

The venture "circle of life" Image
20/ So a ton of smart innovation capital is flowing into fintech

The 2nd force is unbundling of financial services

When legacy FS companies think about markets, they only get excited by giant markets

We can call this the "curse of the TAM" Image
21/ Bastardizing Jeff Bezos quote on margins, we find legacy banks, payment firms, insurers, etc obsess on TAM

And thus leave openings for startups who are unafraid to 'niche down' to build a beachhead in a market Image
22/ Here are examples of what most legacy FS folks might argue are small TAM markets that startups are willing to tackle and building valuable franchises in

"Teen-focused challenger banks" Image
23/ BNPL comes to every service, product imaginable

You think a large legacy financial services firm is going to tackle BNPL for weddings or auto dealers?

Hell no

Ain't no TAM in that Image
24/ How about giving access to an asset class like supply chain financing or sports memorabilia or startups?

No legacy FS firm is going to put resources ($$, their best people, etc) on this

And these are where startups build credibility and grow from Image
25/ Imagine being at a big bank or payments co and pitching

"We should build an app to help divorced parents manage shared expenses"

or

"Let's focus on unbanked workers, mostly 1st and 2nd immigrants"

These are not the types of ideas you bring if you want to move up Image
26/ I'm not saying all these cos are great ideas / will succeed

But a handful of them will make it and start doing other things

Look @stripe's relationships which suggest their moves into BNPL, banking, b2b payments, etc

Product "land & expand" Image
27/ So lots of capital + great unbundling means these startups can and will grow quickly

Now let's go back and look at the most valuable financial services firms from 2018 Image
28/ Since then, 9 of 14 have actually seen market cap declines

This is against the backdrop of a crazy bull market Image
29/ Now, let's look at the valuation climbs of some of the insurgent fintech companies

Quotes are by media outlets / pundits over time :) Image
30/ God I wish I bought Square at its vastly underperforming IPO Image
31/ Coinbase has gone from Series A to ~$50B market cap in 8 years Image
32/ And Stripe, everyone's favorite unicorn has grown to $95B in 10 years Image
33/ Can't do animations on Twitter so bear w/ me on this one

x-axis is age of co
y-axis is valuation

The OGs in FS are 60-200+ years old (the dots on the right)

On the left is the new guard

They're not as big (yet) but they've created massive value in a fraction of time Image
34/ I was reminded of this great graphic on technology adoption over time

The telephone took 105 years to reach 90% of US households

While the internet & cellphone did it in 15 years

Something similar is occurring in financial services Image
35/ The level of creative destruction coming to financial services is massive and it is now coming not gradually, but suddenly

Last thought

Or actually a question

All the fintech unicorns at present are worth ~1 JP Morgan Chase

Who would you buy? Image
36/ Want the full "Gradually, then Suddenly: The Sequel" presentation?

Lots of good data and dataviz on financial services and why incumbent FS firms better get their isht together

Grab it here -- cbinsights.com/research/repor…

It's free Image
37/ Fresh out of the oven

Q3'21 Fintech data is now out, and it was a killer quarter

Funding up 96% vs 2020 and we're only 3 quarters in

Fintech is still en fuego 🔥

cbinsights.com/research/repor…

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valuation: $4B
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Sep 17, 2023
Airtable is probably worth less than the total equity funding it has raised

I'm not talking about the $11.7B valuation it raised at in December 2021

I'm talking about it being worth less than the ~$1.4B+ in financing it has raised

Here's the math/data

Airtable is on track for $150M of ARR in 2023

Per @CBinsights, it was doing $115M in 2021

That's 14%'ish growth per annum

We'll come back to growth in a second

But for right now, that puts Airtable's forward price/revenue multiple at 78x ($11.7B valuation / $150M ARR)

Now, let's compare that price/revenue multiple with publicly traded peers in the broader project mgmt and collaboration space, specifically:

Monday: 12.63x
Asana: 6.61x
SmartSheet: 7.98x

Note: these are not forward multiples but trailing multiples for these companies. And so on a forward basis, the multiples are likely lower

But for the sake of simplicity and to give Airtable the benefit of the higher multiple, we'll use those comps

This would put Airtable's valuation in the neighborhood of

$991 million to $1.89B

Ouch.

That's a 84-92% valuation discount vs that $11.7B val in 2021

Here is where folks will typically argue that the above doesn't consider Airtable's growth

The logic is that Airtable is growing quicker than peers and hence will grow into that valuation and so should command a premium valuation multiple

And therein lies the problem

Once we layer in growth, the picture for Airtable gets worse

Here's YoY revenue growth for the comps

Monday: 68.5%
Asana: 44.6%
SmartSheet: 39.2%

As a reminder, Airtable's growth is ~14%

And here's their trailing revenues:

Monday: $624.8M
Asana: $606.5M
SmartSheet: $711.9M

Airtable: $150M (forward ARR)

So it's public peers are 4x to 5x larger in terms terms of revenue

And they're growing 2.5x to 4.5x faster

Add in a further discount for illiquidity given Airtable is private, the valuation is prob south of $991 million

Asana has the lowest price/revenue multiple of the bunch at 6.61x which is how we arrive at the $991M

Asana is also growing at almost 3x the rate of Airtable off revenue that is 4x larger

It's not hard to imagine that this brings down the multiple of Airtable to 3 to 5x which would equate to a valation of

$450M to $750M

That'd be a discount of 93-96% vs that Dec 2021 valuation

The company is cutting costs and repositioning for profitability which makes sense in this market but given the current likely valuation, all investors after the March 2018 Series B are likely underwater

They're also talking about a future IPO but getting back to anywhere close to that $11.7B valuation would require reigniting massive growth and making that price:revenue to growth ratio look more appealing

As always, if you believe any of my assumptions in the above are incorrect, please comment and I'll update the analysis if the additional context dramatically changes the results





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If you want to go deep on the space, we analyzed @airtable & peers as well as products in the space in Jan 2023

The numbers have evolved a bit but the storyline remains the same.

The massive Airtable equity funding tally was something that caught our eye then as well
If you're a fan of math, you might also like this analysis of Flexport's valuation



#factsoverfeelings
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May 6, 2023
Bragging about headcount was 1 of the most corrosive trends in startup land over the last many years

I was guilty of it too

Somehow larger growing headcount became a positive signal of success for companies

When in reality, it may more often than not be a negative signal
If you look at articles about unicorns, you'd rarely see revenue figures but you'd see founders/CEOs bragging about taking the team to 800 by year-end

Fundraising and headcount became 2 false proxies for success

But what are the real negatives of more headcount?
It may be symptomatic of or lead to ("may" is important here)

- indicate lack of focus
- belief that scale comes from ppl not systems
- a lack of focus on culture
- a non-performance driven culture
- execs motivated by empire-building
- excess complexity & slower velocity
Read 5 tweets
May 5, 2023
1/ Attn: If you're in corp dev or with a financial sponsor/PE

This is an amazing time to look for non-core assets within larger cos that they want/need to divest

Today, we saw Shopify unload 2 recent acquisitions to focus on the core

cbinsights.com/research/shopi… Image
2/ @Shopify sold @DeliverrInc to @flexport

Exactly 1 year ago, they bought it for $2.1B

They divested to Flexport for 13% of the co's equity

Based on Flexport's last valuation of $8B, that's a $1.04B valuation

That's a 50% haircut vs 1 year ago

app.cbinsights.com/profiles/c/pPe… Image
3/ Walmart is another example of a co divesting non-core assets

They just divested Bonobos at a loss

Before that they'd divested:

* ModCloth
* Shoes(dot)com
* Moosejaw
* Bare Necessities
* ELOQUII

cbinsights.com/research/walma…
Read 5 tweets
Apr 9, 2023
The intense drama about SVB has died down

But the implications on the pvt markets will be felt in coming weeks & months

They will be big for VCs, PE and startups

We’ll dig into what the data says here

First stop - Let’s dig into how debt was being used to prop up valuations
2/ In their Q1’23 update, SVB had a telling line

“Clients continue to opt for debt over raising equity at pressured valuations”

This actually explains quite a bit about private market valuations Image
3/ This was a perplexing pvt market phenomenon

That private market valuations were still holding up even though public market tech valuations had dropped dramatically

And the availability of this debt allowed startups to avoid taking “pressured valuations”
Read 20 tweets
Mar 3, 2023
We bootstrapped @cbinsights by first building a totally different business

It involved hedge funds, too big too fail banks and $100,000 PDFs

For nerds interested in data and information services businesses, you might enjoy this
First, some backstory

My 1st day of freedom from big co employment was Jan 1, 2008

In retrospect, this was comically bad timing given the Great Financial Crisis was abt to happen

But I had no idea
Initially, the idea was to do consulting abt a book I’d written on “Corporate Portfolio Management”

We’d lined up some interested clients and were in the contract process

Had $1M of consulting gigs lined up

Then the mkt tanked

The 1 whale we had was a too big too fail bank
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