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Jan 4

The Myth of the Novelty of the Protestant Doctrine of Justification! Thread🧵

The idea that the Protestant notion of justification, as laid out by blessed Luther, is either novel or un-catholic utterly fails to consider that multiple bishops, teachers and cardinals in...

communion with Rome, saw it as orthodox, catholic and patristic. These remained in communion with Rome, not because they held to a different teaching on justification than Luther did, but because they saw Luther as erring on other doctrines.

Yet this should help us see this...

important lesson; that among many well-established and admired theologians, especially Augustinians (as indeed Luther was an Augustinian monk) his doctrine of justification wasn't viewed as novel

The conservative Roman Catholic Professor of Dogmatics Christian Washburn calls...

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Jan 2

https://twitter.com/sincead33/status/1874574726661845174

No – St Augustine did not believe in the doctrine of purgatory!

ARGUMENT;
1, The post grossly misframes Chemnitz

2, St Augustine did not believe in the doctrine of purgatory, defended

3, That prayers for the dead are pious and useful do not entail purgatory

https://twitter.com/sincead33/status/1874574726661845174

First Point, I think this post is grossly misleading and uncharitable. If one wishes to criticize someone for bad scholarship or mischaracterizing another’s view, then one should himself certainly take the utmost care not to do that himself when offering his critique!

Chemnitz is not talking about an Originist School. In context Chemnitz has used the many preceding pages carefully tracing the development of different related aspects of what would later become purgatory, tracing them back to Origen’s teacher Clement of Alexandria...

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Dec 8, 2024

Christmas is the quintessential Lutheran holiday for so many reasons - a thread 🧵

There are all the exterior and obvious things. Like how pastor Wichern, a Lutheran pastor in Hamburg, made the first Advent Wreath in 1839, or how blessed Luther himself, if not inventing...

then as the first championed and spread the wonderful and now ubiquitous tradition of the Christmas Tree, a historic fact from this great Reformer's life and a tradition first recorded among German and Baltic Lutherans in the 16th century. Or the widespread usage of vernacular..

carols, like the heavenly tunes of the pious Lutheran composer Praetorius "Lo, How a Rose Ever Blooming"

Or the immortal Lutheran Sebastian Bach's Christmas Passions etc... and so many other examples could be provided

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Dec 6, 2024

https://twitter.com/2Philosophical_/status/1864861185796976686

St Paul was married - but few know this! 🧵

Both St. Paul himself in the New Testament and the earliest apostolic tradition is clear that St. Paul was married. Yet many are unware of this as the later tradition, championed by zealous ascetic monks buried...

https://twitter.com/2Philosophical_/status/1864861185796976686

this earlier Scriptural and apostolic tradition. Apart from the fact that Jewish men following divine precepts married so as to raise up sons and multiple
St. Paul himself also indicates his marital status at least twice in the NT. First, 1 Corinthians 9:3 he defends himself...

against adversaries viewing him as a lesser apostle claiming his own apostleship as equal to that of the others. Hence he enjoys the same privileges as they do, such as bringing along their wives as St Peter had done, one we explicitly are told was married, Luke 4:38-40

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Nov 4, 2024

Sola Scriptura and Did St Augustine Consider Ecumenical Councils Infallible?

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A Reply to The @The_Catechumen and a Friendly Call-Out for Using A Manipulated Text!

He argues yes to this question in this following video he made...

and in a recent discussion we had about it.

He argues that, and watch the video timestamp for the whole case, in short summed up here,

But this is not so. St Augustine says Cyprian would have yielded (cederet) without a doubt if the question had been clarified (eliquata), declared (declerata) and confirmed (solidaretur) by a plenary council, this is the literal translation of the Latin.

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Nov 2, 2024

St Augustine On The Psalm About Our Justification! a thread 🧵 - PART ONE 1/7

He writes on Psalm 32, Second Sermon

"This is a psalm about God's grace and about our justification"

Let us see how St Augustine applies this to our lives!

He writes,

"The apostle Paul bore witness to the fact that this psalm deals with the grace that makes us Christians; that is why we arranged for this particular passage to be read to you. When the apostle was explaining about the righteousness that depends on faith, in opposition to those who boasted about a righteousness derived from works, he asked, What are we to say that Abraham obtained, he who was our father according to the flesh? If Abraham was justified by works, he has ground for pride, but not before God (Rom 4: 1-2). May God keep that kind of pride far from us! Let us listen to a different injunction: Let anyone who boasts, boast of the Lord (1 Cor 1 :31)."

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Interestingly, St Augustine interprets the phrase from Romans 4:1, as an indicative, namely that if one is justified by works, which in this particular context is explained by St Augustine as describes one who has obeyed God's eternal law, e.g. not committed murder, theft, robbery, desired another's property, adultery etc., then one does indeed have grounds for pride - yet, and crucially, but not grounds for pride before God.

This kind of pride, a pride before the world and not before God, is contrasted by St Augustine with the believer's pride or glory [gloriam] which he has before God. This glory before God the believer can have, exactly because his righteousness is by faith and not by works, by gift and not by desert

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St. Augustine then continues, saying of Abraham,

"Not so our father Abraham. This passage of scripture is meant to draw our attention to the difference. We confess that the holy patriarch was pleasing to God; this is what our faith affirms about him. So true is it that we can declare and be certain that he did have grounds for pride before God, and this is what the apostle tells us. It is quite certain, he says, and we know it for sure, that Abraham has grounds for pride before God. But if he had been justified by works, he would have had grounds for pride, but not before God. However, since we know he does have grounds for pride before God, it follows that he was not justified on the basis of works. So if Abraham was not justified by works, how was he justified? The apostle goes on to tell us how: What does scripture say? That is, about how Abraham was justified, Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness (Rom 4:3; Gn 15:6). Abraham, then, was justified by faith."

Notice how St Augustine interprets St Paul's words about justification by faith apart from works in Romans 4.

St Augustine affirms that St Paul is indeed discussing justification by faith apart from good works, that is works of the divine law as opposite to works of the ceremonial law, or what he in another place calls works of justice.

Likewise, St Augustine notes that Romans 4 does not concern itself with what later Roman theology denotes as initial justification. For the subject of this justification is Abraham, who, as St Augustine notes, was pleasing to God.

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