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Jennifer's great idea to make this chart, orig w/ measles, TB and COVID.

@rdumont99 kicked @JenniferKShea and I to update, @jljcolorado joined. I dumped 18 mo of studies in and we searched a few new. There are more out there.

I said the evid was overwhelming.

There we go.
BTW if you think otherwise, make a chart for droplet ... go on ...

... I guarantee the following:

1. Droplet ones are "evidence for airborne is not sufficient", "we used surgical masks and didn't get sick" and "we p-tested and it's the nebulizer"

2. Fomite ones are "we painted (lots of) virus on hands" + "people touch their faces" t/f possible
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ID/IPAC just followed preconceived notions, so when Hall in 1981 pointed away from air, having done a wholly inadequate sample size, it became the FOUNDATION fo RSV transmitting via droplet.

Cited by WHO rep, despite being wholly inadequate proof.

That study became mythologized in the literature ... nobody checking sources ...



(Go on, go look at how many introductions cite Hall 1981 for this stupid proposition. It's ridiculous.)
And the great irony, WHO would sometimes admit airborne in some of their transmission guidance. ?!



Big bureaucratic machine gonna bureaucratic machine, I guess.
Let me assist anyone looking into fomites, here are a bunch to start:



Enjoy the comments in these _pro-fomite articles_ that fomite couldn't sustain a flu epidemic, etc.
I have never found a single study proving droplet as mode of transmission (for resp diseases). All conjecture.
Math doesn't make sense
Isn't what we see in animals
Doesn't make sense evolutionarily
And was originally Chapin's _guess_ as to why people got sick when near ea other
Whereas just the airborne REVIEWS are slaughters.

And the list of refs just goes on and on back 110 years.

The @WHO even tried to discount droplet and their refs accidentally helped prove airborne!

What a lark!

Top salaries indeed!

Their refs hid that they referred to AN EMAIL to support droplet (but they cited a "rapid review" to hide the direct reference to the email)

An email isn't proof of anything!?!

They got defensive and accused air experts of "owning vent companies".

That got me mad.

So I ripped them new aerosols.

And really, at a certain point when people aren't listening, just put on a mask and protect yourself and walk away.

They'll never get it. They don't want to learn.

(Check date and here we are October 2021, now.)

Here's just one summary thread of all the history

Do the small notations help or hinder? Let us know.

docs.google.com/document/d/e/2…

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@ExtroSpecteur I presume he is saying airborne mitigations should be equally alongside touch or droplet.

No, there is no evidence for any. As I keep saying, but happy to say again, for thousands of years people flipflopped between "it's touch" and "it floats but generates in swamps because ...
@ExtroSpecteur ... they did not understand pathogens. Once they did, referring to respiratory illness, they simply assumed it was droplet because most infections can be traced to an infected having been near the index case. Droplet became an idea with Chapin in 1910, to explain why one needed..
@ExtroSpecteur ...to be close. However, first, their idea of droplet was not necessarily 2 metres. Their idea of airborne was many kilometers, so their discussion of close has to be understood in this context. Two, their investigations were crude, by the 30s air people like Wells
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Call me in two years when you haven't heard anything at all about this vaccine.

And how would it be administered. We take shots every morning?

We have nasal vaccines for flu btw. Still have flu.
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It's always funny to me that virologists get everything and transmission so wrong. I guess because they work with viruses they think they know everything about them. 🤷

The sad part is we would assume that because they work with viruses they know everything about them. Image
*everything about
Virologists don't really work on transmission. Maybe sometimes they spin a tub and flip some in the air or something. But they don't really know what's going on. And then the doctors know the biological clinical side of things but they don't work on transmission either.
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COVID-19 took measles out back and absolutely SHOT IT DEAD.

1 sick player infected 100% OF BOTH HOCKEY TEAMS - 42 people - then another 102 spectators.

172 people in total.

You can watch it sweep the first team then the second team then the stands in the epi curves.

Wow.
A few sick kids at a doctor's office?

Pfft, measles, get out of here you weakly-transmitting pathetic cold of a virus. Even pre-vax you weren't doing this.

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Imma help you with this "science speak"
Just remember the ladder of denial and elite panic myth means if you are hearing a 2 it's a 4. If a 4 it's a 6. If a 6 pack your bags. You'll never hear 8 and up the TV will just play static

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