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Oct 17, 2021 • 20 tweets • 7 min read • Read on X
Jennifer's great idea to make this chart, orig w/ measles, TB and COVID.

@rdumont99 kicked @JenniferKShea and I to update, @jljcolorado joined. I dumped 18 mo of studies in and we searched a few new. There are more out there.

I said the evid was overwhelming.

There we go.
BTW if you think otherwise, make a chart for droplet ... go on ...

... I guarantee the following:

1. Droplet ones are "evidence for airborne is not sufficient", "we used surgical masks and didn't get sick" and "we p-tested and it's the nebulizer"

2. Fomite ones are "we painted (lots of) virus on hands" + "people touch their faces" t/f possible
Published link is

docs.google.com/document/d/e/2…
Easier to read at this link Image
ID/IPAC just followed preconceived notions, so when Hall in 1981 pointed away from air, having done a wholly inadequate sample size, it became the FOUNDATION fo RSV transmitting via droplet.

Cited by WHO rep, despite being wholly inadequate proof.

That study became mythologized in the literature ... nobody checking sources ...



(Go on, go look at how many introductions cite Hall 1981 for this stupid proposition. It's ridiculous.)
And the great irony, WHO would sometimes admit airborne in some of their transmission guidance. ?!



Big bureaucratic machine gonna bureaucratic machine, I guess.
Let me assist anyone looking into fomites, here are a bunch to start:



Enjoy the comments in these _pro-fomite articles_ that fomite couldn't sustain a flu epidemic, etc.
I have never found a single study proving droplet as mode of transmission (for resp diseases). All conjecture.
Math doesn't make sense
Isn't what we see in animals
Doesn't make sense evolutionarily
And was originally Chapin's _guess_ as to why people got sick when near ea other
Whereas just the airborne REVIEWS are slaughters.

And the list of refs just goes on and on back 110 years.

The @WHO even tried to discount droplet and their refs accidentally helped prove airborne!

What a lark!

Top salaries indeed!

Their refs hid that they referred to AN EMAIL to support droplet (but they cited a "rapid review" to hide the direct reference to the email)

An email isn't proof of anything!?!

They got defensive and accused air experts of "owning vent companies".

That got me mad.

So I ripped them new aerosols.

And really, at a certain point when people aren't listening, just put on a mask and protect yourself and walk away.

They'll never get it. They don't want to learn.

(Check date and here we are October 2021, now.)

Here's just one summary thread of all the history

Droplets are nonsense.

Do the small notations help or hinder? Let us know.

docs.google.com/document/d/e/2…

cc @JenniferKShea

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Jun 8
COVID-19 took measles out back and absolutely SHOT IT DEAD.

1 sick player infected 100% OF BOTH HOCKEY TEAMS - 42 people - then another 102 spectators.

172 people in total.

You can watch it sweep the first team then the second team then the stands in the epi curves.

Wow.
mdpi.com/2075-5309/14/6…
A few sick kids at a doctor's office?

Pfft, measles, get out of here you weakly-transmitting pathetic cold of a virus. Even pre-vax you weren't doing this.

SARS-CoV-2 is absolutely mind-blowingly transmissible.
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May 8
Translation: it's already in humans
Imma help you with this "science speak"
Just remember the ladder of denial and elite panic myth means if you are hearing a 2 it's a 4. If a 4 it's a 6. If a 6 pack your bags. You'll never hear 8 and up the TV will just play static

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Apr 25
Has anyone worked up the ladder of denial for bird flu?

- We have not found bird flu.

- We have found bird flu in one bird. There is no evidence of bird to bird transmission.
- We have found bird flu in many birds and there is bird to bird transmission but it has not moved to other mammals.

- We have found bird flu in a cow. However, we have not found evidence of cow to cow transmission.

- We have now found bird flu in many cows.
- We have now found evidence of cow to cow transmission but we do not know how this is happening.

- We found some bird flu in the milk. You should not worry because this might not be live virus. However, for some reason, we now think milk is the vector of transmission.
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Apr 20
I'm so fed up with people taking the WHO seriously.

This is from 2014. Image
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They already said "airborne" although they had said long-range (throw back to 1910, by the way)

But wait for it Image
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Apr 17
Wow they buried the lead.

COVID might be up to an R0 of 24, eating measles for breakfast. Image
Very comparable at median of 11 to measles, which is probably 9 to 12.

Anyway from p. 19 iris.who.int/handle/10665/3…
And measles from much much older reports...

Somewhere I posted an article that looked at how they arrived at 12 to 18 and concluded it was more like 9 to 12. Probably on the low end too.
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Mar 18
For anyone reading this, he means "Airborne" as in the three viruses that require Airborne precautions.

Those are _defined_ as TB, measles and chickenpox.

They are "airborne" because they are "Airborne."

It is totally ludicrous, yes.
It means negative pressure rooms and N95s, which is why they desperately do not want COVID to be called "Airborne".
This is why, during SARS, when a roomful of Canadian doctors and nurses got sick even though they were using "Droplet precautions" (I'll capitalize) - that is, medical masks - they invented AGMP, so they could explain how a droplet virus infected people using Droplet Precautions.
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