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Oct 22, 2021 41 tweets 15 min read Read on X
Thread incoming. AGs lawsuit v Google posted upon orders of court. Simply put, there is A LOT. I previously called Google "screwed" despite redactions but there are more eye poppers.
I'm starting with Facebook market rigging allegations. Congrats Sheryl Sandberg on redaction. /1 Image
It's pretty amazing to see the actual quotes from discovery. For instance the express purpose to "kill HB." That's short for "header bidding" which was a significant threat to Google's business. /2 Image
Header bidding was bad because it allowed publishers to bypass fees which we now learn ranged between 19-22% of revenues. Also, a bit of foreshadowing here in the removed redactions as to why Facebook was a part of the threat. /3 Image
We now have internal email which explains the game which header bidding also risks disrupting - giving priority to Google's AdX despite it meaning less revenues for the publishers. Hello, SEC. One company can't participate all sides of market at this dominance. /4 Image
This is why killing header bidding was the #1 priority for a top Google executive. See the new information which is now unsealed ... and just let me know if it's at all unclear. /5 Image
According to these allegations, Google's initial way for this executive to achieve this goal involved just stopping competition, innovation and investment. "forestall major industry investment in FB..." /6 Image
Who would be the biggest target here? Well, Facebook had announced it was entering the market. (note, there are allegations that was done for bait)... we knew this but it's helpful to see the complaint in clear text and what Facebook got in return. /7 Image
We hadn't seen Facebook's own internal messages showing it was blatantly obvious why Google wanted this alleged quid pro quo with Facebook so they would exit the market. "They want to kill header bidding." Yeah, that's clear. /8 Image
OK, into the actual agreement. A number of the terms are included as screen shots. Allegations are it involved upfront agreement on auction frequency, win rates and minimum spend plus handling regulator threats. /9 Image
It also involved providing a bunch of help in identifying users, allegations compare some of the methods to "inside trading" in that Facebook was uniquely win certain terms to block inside info. Congrats, Dan. /10 ImageImage
A gag order on its lower fees which absolutely impact how auction dynamics work. When I always have called Facebook and Google a duopoly, it was my hope people would understand the two companies were taking most growth and a deal like this plays into it. /11 Image
As you think about way real-time markets work, it's not only about pricing, too. It's about access to that data and even the effects of terms around time guarantees and thresholds. Facebook got longer time, again likely due to its market size and Google wanting to "Kill HB." /12 Image
Just read the unsealed parts in yellow and think through the effects of a guaranteed spend, guaranteed bid participation and minimum win rate in an auction where each time you win it negatively impacts the rest of the market. /13 Image
Here is (just some of) the previously language in the Facebook and Google allegedly illegal market rigging deal. Do you think this drew any red flags for the executives reviewing the deal? /14 Image
I'm going to go read the rest of unsealed complaint. Here is a tease into an area which boils my blood. How various forums facilitate Google controlling and influencing the industry - in this case undermining consumer privacy - which has economic impact on the rest of market. /15 Image
During this intermission, here is a link to my December thread on the case that was widely read. It's also here so I can go back and compare my notes. /16
OK, I'm back. This is deadly. The yellow in this section is what Google tried to keep redacted and has now been unsealed. Read it. Understand it. Much of the entire online information and monetization market flows through it. /17 Image
It's interesting how Google execs repeat themselves on internal messages, "for clarity," while knowing this was entirely unclear to their users. ps delete WhatsApp, it's owned by Facebook. /18 Image
I'm back. Feels like some monopoly rents. For the journalists out there, these are jobs in your newsrooms. /19 Image
Interesting Google wanted to keep what is in yellow hidden from the public record. This "value" is as determined by Google's design influence over digital advertising. I've written about this but in a world of direct response, micro-targeted audiences, yeah, this is true. /20 Image
More stuff Google didn't want you to see, in yellow showing how much they take from publishers. This doesn't even count the value of the data they extract by having a larger surveillance advertising biz than any other company. /21 Image
when the monopolist fully acknowledges their business is able to collect rents only because it's a monopoly. Unbelievable. Thank you for unsealing the quotes in yellow this morning! /22 Image
Small publishers and local newspapers are often Google's frontline of defense against privacy and other threats to its surveillance capitalism because they are so dependent on Google for monthly checks. Yet for every $100 they earn, Google is taking $47 to $66. /23 Image
If you were in the group that only wins 20% of the time, why would you even keep playing? /24 Image
wow, we finally have a number. 75% of the ad impressions in the United States are served by Google Ad Manager according to Google's internal docs. I'm sure the fact they also own the dominant browser, search engine, buying platforms is irrelevant. /25 Image
so a publisher has to pay 10% of gross revenues for any impressions they want to route outside of Google's monopoly supply chain. that 10% is A LOT of newsroom jobs. /26 Image
Not much of a secret to anyone who has switched ad servers... but unsealed in yellow suggests internal Google docs confirm that switching costs are high. ps @vestager this explains why almost no publishers jumped ship when Google abused GDPR. /27 Image
Having now seen the numbers in yellow, how do you not describe this as a "rigged marketplace?" /28 Image
prices go down, demand goes up. do I have that right? I've even heard of a non-profit exchange that can't compete against Google because of this. /29 Image
If yellow now unsealed is in Google's own writing, it seems like pretty clear foreclosure of the market by tying together with its marketplace dominance. /30 Image
woah. a lot of redactions now unsealed when you get to the section on the 'gTrade' team. this is quant r&d to manipulate the market that funds most of the internet. WTF. No wonder Google wanted it redacted. /31 Image
We're not at the "Project Bernanke" part of the program. We learned about this in Google's response when they screwed up their redactions but it's interesting to see the full complaint. Nice Google included the photo in this ill-advised project name. /32 Image
for those not watching closely, the allegations are that this Bernanke program involved special access to advertisers' bidding history across the net to helped them minimize purchase prices... that publishers didn't know about... /33 Image
You could do an entire masters class on how this impacts publishing. I had never heard them use the term, "cookie concentration," but just know ultimately it steers the news and entertainment market to click baiting to create valuable cookies which Google can skim with milk. /33 Image
Missed this the first time as it was entirely redacted. In Google's goal to kill the competitive threat of header bidding, employees acknowledged pricing at $0 to win the market still wouldn't be effective as it wouldn't kill it and that was the core problem. /34 Image
"what would we do?"
antitrust much? /35 Image
wow again. the unsealed quotes from internal google documents really put the evidence into the real-world. "if imposing limits pushes them [publishers] more to Jedi - then we should keep those limits in place." /36 Image
Those who track the Facebook "Oversight Board" will get a kick out of the line unsealed this morning in yellow. Sheryl Sandberg is ex-Google, I wonder if this is in the Silicon Valley monopoly playbook? /37 Image
oh good grief. it was in their own emails...
"[b]y charging non-transparently on both sides, we give ourselves some flexibility to react and counteract market changes. If we face tons of pricing pressure on the buy-side, we can fall back on the sell-side, and vice-versa.” /38 Image
Sorry, phone keeps ringing. I did a double-take on this one. How in the &*^%$% is Facebook allegedly telling Google to not allow publishers (you know, the news and entertainment companies) to set price floors for their inventory in auctions??? How much $ did that shift? /39 Image
Just when Google thought I was done, here is #40 as the court has unsealed the line alleging how YouTube was leveraged to move the market towards Google's video buying technology. /40 Image

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Feb 21
It's time to call it. AI is built on a house of cards of intellectual property violations starting with Facebook which is starting to look a lot like a crime scene as held back discovery documents begin to be compelled and unsealed in court. /1 Image
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Rare weekend filing in the NdCal lawsuit that now includes allegations and evidence Facebook used torrenting with a massive pirated dataset to train LLaMA and only now is disclosing another 18,000 documents it failed to produce (now after Zuckerberg depo). Watch this space. 1/4 Image
The pirated dataset allegations matter because Facebook would not only be pulling in tens of millions of copyrighted works but also seeding them for others to download. Allegations are this went to the top. 2/4 Image
And here is where Facebook's going to have problems. Plaintiffs are now noting to the Judge - the same one in Facebook's record $700+ million privacy lawsuit - a familiar pattern of discovery abuse, gaslighting and delays. Same thing happened in DC Superior Court, too. 3/4 Image
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Woah. Sheryl Sandberg, former COO of Facebook, just sanctioned by Delaware judge for deleting emails ahead of trial this spring. This is the state pension shareholder case alleging the company overpaid the FTC and SEC in $5B+ settlements in order to protect Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Long after the books had been inspected and many lawsuits had played out, it was disclosed last year she had a personal Gmail account under a pseudonym that may have been used for relevant communications. /2 Image
The Judge here calls her a "high sophisticated individual." He probably doesn't know about the 2018 NYT report on how she carved out these issues in her Senate Intel testimony or how their lawyers were sanctioned on related discovery in California. /3 Image
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Jan 16
wow. This AI lawsuit against Facebook keeps getting worse as they reluctantly unseal documents on Court orders.
Check out this allegation. Not only two hrs before discovery cut-off but the Friday before we now know Mark Zuckerberg was deposed... /1 Image
Here is the bit from the newly filed and now unsealed third amended complaint. Allegations here Facebook used torrenting to download a pirated dataset to train LLaMA thereby also "seeding" pirated content globally. This is a BFD. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
In fact, it can be criminal so this count is in the third amended complaint and the state attorney general (hello, @AGRobBonta) should note these allegations here. As it relates to this case, it may also break their privilege claims since it alleged to further a crime. /3 Image
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Jan 14
wow. Upon Court order, incriminating exhibits were unsealed at 3:30am in an AI lawsuit against Meta. Once past a 'fake privilege,' it appears Zuckerberg approved the use of a highly controversial, pirated dataset.
Note OpenAI, too? AI companies with no ethics or guardrails. /1 Image
Here they acknowledge risk in media coverage, and massive EU fines, if "we have used a dataset we know to be pirated." So then you ask yourself the question, did they actually know it was pirated and use it? I uploaded docs - . /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
To that question, here is how the internal project manager describes the dataset. Note the line (these are all my yellow highlights), "when sourced from copyrighted materials without the permission of copyright holders." /3 Image
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Jan 8
woah. This Friday? Too much moving on court dockets so I will surface for you. This matters, in this mega-Facebook case, as highly respected Chenault was Chairman of Facebook's board during its biggest scandals. WSJ reported he left board after disagreements with Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Here is the report on his departure, it includes reports of disagreements with Peter Thiel, too, over elections policies and "clashes" over moderation policies.
Btw, highly relevant to the last 24hrs of news. /2 wsj.com/articles/chena…Image
Moving on, Zuckerberg has also been noticed for deposition after "alleged wrongdoing on a truly colossal scale." He was already deposed last month in Hawaii for 7hrs. I would expect SEC closely compares transcripts to their 2019 depo which @zamaan_qureshi managed to unseal. /3 Image
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