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Oct 24, 2021 12 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Ah yes... the archetypal 'Western man'
The Dune 2021 movie couldn't have fucked up Liet Kynes up any more then they did.

They got it completely backwards.

Extremely shallow reading of the source material.

But you know - *hurrah* its woke.
First off making Kynes' dying moment an act of 'revenge against imperial soldiers' by summoning the worm is so off the mark it's a joke.
Here's what the death actually is and should be - straight from the mouth of Frank Herbert and his wife during a 1969 interview:
'It's very important that the planet kills the ecologist'.
'This of course was done deliberately [...] Kynes... who is the Western man in my original construction of the book sees all of these things happening to him as mechanical things, doesn't subtract from the fact that he is still a part of this system because it is observing him-'
'he's lived out of rhythm with it, and he got in the trough of the wave and it tumbled on him.'
From another similar 1980 interview:

'Liet Kynes - who is really is a subversive character you realise?'
Liet Kynes 'He is my model for all of the ecologically 'aware', I’ll give you this quote - We need that so we will do this, and then the consequences began.'
'My view of Liet Kynes was a perfect model of the shortsighted... ecologically aware, who wants a particular condition, he’s thirsty he wants water, he doesn't like brown landscape he wants green... so he.. moves to [simplistically change things].'
iT's fAiThFuL tO tHe sPiRiT oF tHe nOvEl
I actually enjoyed the film.
I probably always was going to.
But this is beyond laughable.

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Oct 24, 2021
Saw Dune

Quite enjoyed it (although chances were maybe slim that I wouldn't).

Didn't have many expectations any which way.

Has problems as an adaption of the book but a decent enough film.

A lot of comments I could make, but for most people this will be the version to watch.
A quick bunch:

Every time the dialogue stepped away from Herbert's it was weaker for it.

His writing is (literally) poetry.
The choice to not have the audience privy to the thoughts of the characters requires a bit of work around but it manages.

Show vs tell is tricky for any Dune film.
Read 30 tweets
Oct 22, 2021
There have been more attempts at making a Dune film than most people are aware of;

even those who know about Jodorowsky.

It’s quite an interesting little piece of history:
The original rights to option a Dune film were bought by APJAC around 1971/1972, which was the company of Arthur P. Jacobs (producer of Planet of the Apes) who ‘had the bad taste to die’ before ever consulting with Herbert.
After the Jacobs estate is sorted, in 1974 the APJAC corporation sold the film option to a French group - who would hire Alejandro Jodorowsky to direct. Image
Read 24 tweets
Oct 16, 2021
Dune is one of the greatest pieces of science-fiction of all time.

But having spent more than a month pouring through every Frank Herbert interview I could find (timing coincidental) what's awe-striking is how far ahead the writer was and the quality of his insight.

Here's why:
What's most impressive about Herbert is his broad interest and understanding of domains - from what you could call 'proto-complexity' & ecology, to politics, semantics, self-sufficiency & even homesteading.

(Considering his books maybe it's no surprise)

See for yourself:
Read 104 tweets
Jun 25, 2021
@normonics' Intro to Applied Complexity #ACS101 #SpringA2021 Highlights

Session 12: Perception, Action, and Mind

(Back after a bit of a hiatus - have still been chipping away little by little in the background all the while)

Thread/
On:

How units, especially complex multicellular animals, mainly get around in the world in a macroscopic way.

Issues to do with perception/action and in some sense mind.

1/n
Gigerenzer, Gut Feelings -"Many skills lack descriptive language"
JJ Gibson -"The environment isn't the same as the physical world"
Maturana etc. -"The [eye's] operations thus have much more the flavour of perception than sensation, if that distinction has any meaning now"

2/n
Read 158 tweets
Mar 9, 2021
@normonics' Intro to Applied Complexity #ACS101 #SpringA2021 Highlights

Session 11: The Organisation and Dynamics of Living Agents

Thread/
Intuitively much of the real world is alive, whatever that might mean.

The kind of complexity that we observe in living systems is really an order of magnitude (however you might want to measure that) more complex than anything we see in the 'merely' physical world

1/n
Physical systems can display non-linear behaviours, pattern forming processes, etc.

When we get to the realm of the living almost none of our reductionistic concepts are too helpful, outside of very narrow contexts

2/n
Read 134 tweets
Mar 8, 2021
@normonics' Intro to Applied Complexity #ACS101 #SpringA2021 Highlights

Session 10: Variety and Entropy

Thread/
To account for increasingly large and complex systems, we must take an ensemble perspective.

1/n
Instead of thinking about what the system is going to do, start thinking about what can the system possibly do what's the state space? what could it possibly do? what configuration could it possibly have? The complement of that is what possibility won't it manifest/actualise?
2/n
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