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Threading thoughts from UK Parliament hearing with social media platforms. First up is Facebook including Antigone Davis who testified a few weeks ago to US Senate. @DamianCollins is already drilling down on FB's research very much exposing Facebook's negligence and spinning. /1
MP Collins did a breathtaking job in unpacking the issues, the lack of answers to accountability. Here is how he closed revealing only 4% of Facebook's $275B in profits went toward safety and security. Watch for the drink of the water glass. It’s a facebook tell. /2
This was after @DamianCollins probed on where decision making actually happens. In 2018, all answers were “the buck stops with Mark.” Now with the SEC complaints and plethora of lawsuits about governance, control, insider trading, it seems Facebook’s talking point went vague. /3
I’ll catch up and share thoughts from other MPs. Just focused on watching. Side note, remote evidence is such a problem here. Facebook’s Davis is clearly looking to her right of camera getting answer flip cards. /4
Baroness Kidron followed with probing on trust and whether or not Facebook is a system fit for purpose. She will later follow-up on whether there is a need for liability for directors since Facebook's policies are clearly not working. /5
Next up @MrJohnNicolson probed into the details of the Instagram research. He also asked why Apple needed to step in to get Facebook to actually step up its efforts to reduce use of its platforms for human trafficking. /6
Once again, we're back at trying to get a simple answer on who is the ultimate decision maker on the decisions to make adjustments to algorithmic amplification. Facebook once again dodges this, there is an obvious effort to avoid putting anyone's name to it - even the CEO. /7
wow, @DarrenPJones is new to me and providing outstanding line of questions. He starts with who/how Facebook's Davis reports into the Risk and Audit Committee of Facebook's board. She doesn't. This is the precise governance issue on table with several current lawsuits. /8
Several questions regarding Facebook's shutting off NYU researchers to they cannot study how Facebook microtargets and spreads content and ads. FB leans into scraping stating it's a privacy issue but says it's not about privacy and really makes no sense at all to any audience. /9
Bingo. Here was @MrJohnNicolson: “all of this suggests Facebook is an abuse facilitator that only reacts when you’re under threat either from terrible publicity or from companies for example like Apple that threaten you financially.” /10
Again, this was super weird. I didn’t know she and Potts report into Joel Kaplan who is a lightning rod and shouldn’t be anywhere near “safety and security” but then she skips over Nick Clegg and goes straight to the top. Why? And why doesn’t she know these answers? /11
Here was @darrenpjones. As the pension lawsuits in Delaware related to the $5B cover-up settlement claim, there is a lack of governance at Facebook driving lack of accountability. It’s also insane she doesn’t know the details of the bill. /12
Facebook’s answer is a mess here on why NYU researchers were cut off and falsely claimed it was a privacy issue. @DamianCollins gets in a point on Facebooks cover-up with Cambridge Analytica as he’s well-versed on it. /13 cc @LauraEdelson2
This exchange requires two clips (1 of 2 here) but is directly relevant to Facebook’s misleading hate speech prevalence metrics (3-5% spun into 98%) and ineffectiveness of their AI solutions which @dseetharaman broke down so clearly in episode 7 of the Facebook Files podcast. /14
This exchange requires two clips (2 of 2 here) but is directly relevant to Facebook’s misleading hate speech prevalence metrics (3-5% spun into 98%) and ineffectiveness of their AI solutions which @dseetharaman broke down so clearly in episode 7 of the Facebook Files podcast. /15
Questions specific to January 6th insurrection and Facebook’s recommendation of Stop the Steal and civic groups overall. Davis gets surprisingly irritated at the simple question of whether or not the changes were made before or after the US election. /15
You can judge but Facebook’s Davis certainly seemed to lose her cool then catches herself when @DamianCollins pressed on Facebook’s January 6th timeline. We’ve been here before on other matters. /16
Worth also posting this exchange also with @DamianCollins drilling down on the May 26, 2020 WSJ report from @dseetharaman @JeffHorwitz report that “64% of all extremist group joins are due to recommendation tools.” Her answers are remarkable. /17

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Sep 14
ok, this is HUGE. Late Friday, Penske (PMC) filed a wicked-smart, landmark antitrust lawsuit against Google. I've now read it in full and I'm very impressed. Importantly, it's the first antitrust suit for Google tying its AI-driven products to its adjudicated search monopoly. /1 Image
The core claim: Google is abusing its search monopoly to force pubs to hand over content - not just for traditional search indexing but to feed its AI. Google then repurposes it to substitute them with its own services breaking the fundamental bargain of the open web. /2 Image
Penske says this is not a fair exchange. If it weren't for Google's adjudicated monopoly power (recall Judge Mehta said they get 19x as many queries as next biggest), Google would be paying pubs for these rights or if it didn't then they would opt-out of providing them. /3 Image
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Sep 6
OK all ye people depressed Judge Mehta didn't order Google broken into bits this week. I'm here to cheer you up. DOJ has its other remedies trial in 16 days and just posted its PFJ (Proposed Final Remedies) now 60+ pages of brilliant detail. Let me walk you through key terms. /1 Image
This is the 2023 US v Google adtech win - the one DCN and its premium publishers have long been much more deep and focused on. Here’s what it means for publishers of all types - and why it will be a massive win for the open web if Judge Brinkema signs on (I believe she will). /2 Image
First, clear structural remedies. Google must divest AdX, its ad exchange, w/in 2yrs and likely DFP, its publisher ad server. No more vertical ad stack monopoly with interest conflicts. This would finally decouple tools Google can use to rig auctions and suppress pub revenues. /3 Image
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Sep 5
All eyes at Google on streaming NFL game tonight but Google Inc and its many monopolies have had quite the week. I’ve been absorbing on this end, some quick Friday thoughts on things missed. Bad news certainly for the public, and also DCN members, in US v Google Search case. /1
Judge Mehta said "no thanks" to helping publishers - because he said no pubs testified. Maybe that’s what retaliation fear looks like??? He also noted the unlawful conduct was about distribution deals, not deals with publishers. More on that in a minute. /2
Despite Mehta finding Google illegally maintained its 95%+ search monopoly with browser deals, he also said it’s OK for Google to keep owning Chrome - the world’s biggest browser - so they can keep paying everyone else and free riding on their own browser. All bad here. /3
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Jul 17
Woah. Facebook just settled immediately before board members Andreessen, Thiel, Zuckerberg, Desmond-Hellman, and Sheryl Sandberg were set to testify as to who knew what and when…depriving public of any accountability and facts in courtroom from board and officer comms. 1/3
Counter to Facebook lawyers framing yesterday, the DC AG suit isn’t dead (awaiting DC Circuit from 1/30 hearing), and NdCal shareholder suit also still alive. This is the closest to
Courtroom testimony after about $8B+ in settlements. 2/3
Credit to Reuters, Delaware Online who I saw actually showed up to cover. It’s likely why Facebook, Zuckerberg and its board, let this one get so close. But the grid. But today things were likely to get very very hot. 3/3
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Jul 15
News cycles. News cycles. What I called the "mother of all lawsuits" for Facebook in 2021 goes to trial TOMORROW. Zuckerberg, Marc Andreessen, Sheryl Sandberg, Peter Thiel, other board members expected to testify live as to who knew what and when in its largest scandal ever. /1 Image
Meanwhile, Zuckerberg and Facebook comms have successfully flooded the zone with AI-hype and exclusive CEO interviews mostly distracting the press away from a trial on how they leveraged, and allegedly abused, personal data to drive a decade of massive growth in mobile share. /2
The case involves allegations the board broke its loyalty to company (and Zuckerberg insider traded on stock) after Facebook had been long violating its FTC consent decree and other privacy laws - all covered up by nearly $8 billion in settlements ($5B alone with the FTC). /3 Image
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Jun 17
Woah. Exhibit list just posted for Facebook trial in DE starting in a few weeks. We finally have confirmation Sheryl Sandberg was deposed by the SEC - one week prior to Zuckerberg which also kept secret until a lawsuit unsealed it. Sandberg was also sanctioned in this case. /1 Image
This matters as it gets at Who Knew What When at FB ahead of the world finding out its platform was leaking personal data for years. Zuckerberg was dodgy at best under oath to Congress, FB responses to Parliaments focused on 2018 news. But exhibits include Jan 2017 MZ emails. /2 Image
The DE lawsuit claims Facebook's $5 billion record settlement was inflated in order to protect its CEO, Zuckerberg, and also includes (civil) insider trading claims. Zuckerberg was ordered to sit for multiple day depo this year, will have to testify live. /3 Image
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