Cross Examination of Kyle Rittenhouse you have not heard /1
You said the decedent Rosenbaum threatened to kill you, correct?
As he approached you, he had no gun. Correct?
He had no weapon except what proved to be a clear plastic bag. Correct?
Rittenhouse Cross /2
But, he kept coming according to your testimony. Right?
You said he ran at you. Do I understand correctly?
You raised your rifle fro pointing toward the ground to pointing at Decedent Rosenbaum. Correct?
Rittenhouse cross /3
You say he then lunged at you with his body bent at the waist and his arms extended forward on a downward angle. Correct?
Rittenhouse Cross /4
Your attorney told the jury that Rosenbaum reached fir The muzzle of your rifle, but you moved It in circulars fashion, so he never succeeded in taking hold of the rifle. Did you hear him tell that to the jury?
Rittenhouse Cross /5
But, your attorney got that wrong according to your testimony. Am I right?
You testified that you felt Rosenbaum grab the muzzle of your rifle. Do you remember your testimony?
So, are you saying Rosenbaum used you to commit suicide?
Is that your testimony?
Rittenhouse cross /6
Well, he grabbed the muzzle of your rifle and you pulled the trigger. Isn’t that your sworn testimony?
The bullet you fired at point blank range with your AR-15 entered Rosenbaum’s chest. That’s undisputed , isn’t that true?
Rittenhouse cross /7
[I propose using Jos Rosenbaum’s last name to draw Rittenhouse into also using only his last name,which might offend the jury.]
You heard the forensic pathologist testify that the shot to the chest you fired was the fatal wound. You heard that, didn’t you?
Rittenhouse /8
So, Joseph Rosenberg was disabled by the chest shot. Do you agree?
He fell to the ground, didn’t he?
Why did you fire the second shot?
After you shot Joseph in the chest, were you still frightened of him?
Rittenhouse Cross /9
Did your 2nd shot strike Joseph in the head?
So his head was below you. Do I understand correctly?
Why shoot Jos a 3rd time?
Did you think that 2 shots at point blank range into Joseph’s body were not enuf to render him unable to hurt U or anyone else?
Rittenhouse cross /10
That night, on Jan 25, how many shots with an AR-15 at point blank range did you think were required to incapacitate Joseph?
You then shot Joseph a third time with a third bullet. Did I get that right?
Rittenhouse Cross /11
You then shot Joseph a 3rd time with a third bullet. Did I get that right?
Why did you pump a 3rd bullet into Joseph’s body?
Where did that third bullet enter Joseph’s body?
Rittenhouse Cross /12
Was he standing, on his knees or prone when you pulled the trigger a third time?
Did you expect Joseph to keep charging you after you pumped the third bullet into him?
Rittenhouse Cross /13
But, you pulled the trigger yet a fourth time. Isn’t that an undisputed fact?
Is it your testimony that Joseph Rosenbaum’s was still on his feet, charging you after he was shot with three bullets at point blank range with your AR-15?
Rittenhouse Cross /14
Please explain to the jury why you pumped that 4th bullet into Joseph’s then mutilated body?
Do you want the jury to believe that you considered Joseph to still be a mortal threat to you after his body absorbed 3 full metal jacket bullets from your AR-15?
Rittenhouse Cross /15
Are those the facts you want the jury to believe?
Or—did you simply panic because you were emotionally unstrung by entering a community experiencing civil unrest and you took over the role of a policeman, but without the necessary experience or training?
Rittenhouse Cross /16
At that point, w/Joseph on the ground, mortally wound red &bleeding to death, did you still consider your AR-15 to be a cool weapon?
Now I understand you next shot Mr. Huber to death.
Do I understand that correctly?
Rittenhouse cross /17
You used the same AR-15 used to kill Joseph Rosenbaum. Is that right?
At that point, did you understand the lethal power of your weapon of choice?
Rittenhouse Cross /18
Before shooting and killing Mr. Huber, you were confronted by Mr. Szymanski, whom you claim threatened to kill you and had a firearm pointed at you. Correct?
How was it that you avoided shooting and killing Mr. Szymanski?
Rittenhouse Cross /19
Do you think you might have used the same technique to avoid shooting and killing Nr. Rosenbaum or Me. Huber?
Why not?
Rittenhouse Cross /20
Regarding Mr. Huber,U knew he charged U because he saw U kill Mr. Rosenbaum. True?
Did it occur to U that he considered U a danger to Black Lives Matter Peaceful protestors?
Why not?
U saw peaceful protestors in the streets of Kenosha that night,didn’t U?
Rittenhouse Cross /21
In fact, you testified that you intended to offer Medical assistance to peaceful protestors that night and the preceding nights. Am I right?
Lots of people on the streets of Kenosha that night and preceding nights carried firearms. Correct?
Rittenhouse Cross /22
Did most people on the streets carry firearms this nights?
Wasn’t it reasonable for Nr. Huber to perceive you as a threat to others that night after seeing you shoot Joseph to death and see you still carrying your AR-15?
Rittenhouse Cross /23
Why not?
You understand that friends and relatives of Mr.. Huber consider JIM a courageous hero for assaulting you after you killed Joseph?
Do you understand why they see Mr.Huber as their hero?
Rittenhouse Cross /24
In hindsight, don’t you think you could have avoided shooting and killing Mr. Huber as you had done with Mr. Szymanski?
Why not?
Rittenhouse Cross /25
Mr. Huber was seated on the pavement when you shot him. Wasn’t he?
Why did you shoot Mr. Huber in the torso?
Could you have shot a warning shot instead of killing him?
Why not?
Rittenhouse Cross /26
Do U consider a skate board more lethal than an AR-15 as a weapon?
R they close in lethality?
Did U ever shout at Mr. Huber to drop his skate board or U’ll shoot?
U’ve seen lots of TV shows where the main character shouts”Drop it or I’ll shoot!”Haven’t U?
Rittenhouse Cross /27
What were you doing at that moment?
You were afraid of Mr. Kreutzer? Is that right?
You know he was acting as a medic that night. Similar to what you were doing. Do you understand thot from his testimony?
Rittenhouse Cross /28
When you decided you were afraid of Mr. Kreutzer, did you ever consider retreating!
Are you familiar with the concept of retreat?
Were you aware of the concept of retreat on Jan 25?
Did you consider retreating before shooting Mr. Kreutzer?
Rittenhouse Cross /29
Did you hear G Kreutzer testify that he thought he was going to die that night when he decided to approach you?
Do you understand why that was Mr. Kreutzer’s perception, that he would die at your hand?
Rittenhouse Cross /30
Don’t you agree it was reasonable on Jan 25, to fear that you would murder Mr. Kreutzer in cold blood?
In retrospect, is there anything you could have done on Jann25 to assure Mr. Kreutzer that you did not have the intention to murder him?
Missed in much of the discussion of The Rittenhouse trial is the part it plays in America’s Culture War.
Gun Regulation
Wisconsin allows open carry.
Kenosha is in love with its Guns.
We see what American life will be like without gun regulations.
Rittenhouse Culture War /2
Watching videos of Kenosha, we get the impression that everyone there carries a gun.
It’s just normal.
Judge Schroeder is pro-gun. He commented on the record that abysmal judgment should not be assigned to Rittenhouse for bringing a gun to a riot.
Rittenhouse Culture War /3
The default by the police department to AR-15 carrying vigilantes for law enforcement is not discussed. It’s accepted as a normal backdrop.
No one asks why a 17 year old was allowed by police to patrol the streets with an illegally possessed AR-15.
Rittenhouse /3 gave his bullet-proof vest to someone.
Relevance?
He bought his rifle and a scope that day, 10/25.
“YellowPants Guy said to me, ‘You pointed your laser rifle at me.’”
No objection to a statement by an unidentified 3rd party, unrelated to the victims.
Rittenhouse /4 suddenly breaks into tears after testifying confidently in a relaxed way.
He cries &sobs on witness stand,at length, until judge announces a break in the trial w/o request and w/o objection.
Rittenhouse testified to Rosenbaum threatening him and “ambushing” him.
Rittenhouse /5 gasps &is unable to speak. His Mom is in the gallery breaking into sobs &being consoled by his sister.
The jury will have difficulty sending this child to prison,killer or not.
Rittenhouse testified Rosenbaum threatened to kill him twice,but he never saw him before
WI Vigilantes /1
How could Wisconsin law enforcement &public safety officials allow armed vigilantes to swarm Kenosha when violent rioters exploited Peaceful Black Lives Matter Protestors?
Protest of shooting Jacob Blake 7x in the back required protection from lawless violence.
WI Vigilantes /2
Poor Boys considered themselves “deputized”, including 17 yr old, beer drinking Rittenhouse.
WI Vigilantes /3
Where was the National Guard while protestors and merchants needed protection from violent rioters?
THREAD
Rittenhouse Day 2 /1
I began watching Rittenhouse trial on YouTube, yesterday. I am 4 days behind real time, but coverage and reporting of the trial on cable news and news services has been limited.
Our national culture war is played out dramatically in this courtroom.
Rittenhouse Day 2/2
Wisconsin is a raging battleground state fir our culture war.
White Supremacy is cherished by close to half the state. Populism, both left and right, has been a strong strain since LaFollette.
Guns are wildly popular, with open carry readily practiced.
Rittenhouse Day 2/3
The background for the fatal shootings &severe wounding is George Floyd Murder protests in Kenosha, prompted by the police shooting of AfAm Jacob Blake, 5 times in his back, by white cops in front of his children.
THREAD
Rittenhouse Day One /1
I spent the day watching the 1st day of Rittenhouse Trial on YouTube.
It’s like no trial I’ve ever seen.
The gun culture of Wisconsin is like another world to me.
The state’s right to a fair trial is abrogated as much as it is in GA’s Arbery trial.
Rittenhouse Day One /2
I never used to worry about the prosecution’s rights. I guess White Supremacy will do that when things are flipped.
The Rules of Evidence seem to be made up as you go in WI. Speculation by witnesses is invited and then implored.
Rittenhouse Day One /3
Bizarre elements plague the prosecution presentation.
A key witness in the Rosenberg case is a professional news videographer. He’s composed, organized &articulate.
But, you have to factor in—
He was on the job for Tucker Carlson. And—apparently still is.