I spoke with Julius Jones' attorney Amanda Bass last week about everything that's going on with Jones' case in the final days.
She said she spoke to Gov. Stitt last week, and said it was "nice to be able to talk with him about all the evidence they put before the PPB."
She also said it was "very helpful" to answer some of Gov. Stitt's questions about the case. "I will say we did have a robust substantive conversation about his case .... we're grateful he's looking at everything."
She praised the PPB and the process of the commutation and clemency hearings. They had fought for years to get their new evidence in front of the courts, she said, but were barred because of Jones' death sentence. The PPB process finally provided them with a setting.
"In many ways (new evidence in a death sentence case) is hard because it's out of your hands. I said we were hopeful we could get a hearing in state court but in the end we did it this way."
I asked her, what about people who are unsure of Jones' innocence? "There's no way to conclude he got a fair trial ... at minimum that should give us pause to execute."
She said that if @GovStitt were to commute Jones' sentence to life without parole, it would still be a win. "We are grateful for whatever mercy Gov. Stitt grants to Julius ... LWOP means Julius lives ... it would be a travesty to kill him and LWOP still means he's alive
I asked her if Julius was aware of the circumstances surrounding John Grant's execution (convulsions, vomiting.) "I think Julius tries not to let his mind go there. He's aware of what happened to Mr. Grant, but for his own mental integrity he tries not to talk about that with us.
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The Pardon&Parole Board just voted 3-2 to recommend clemency for Bigler Stouffer, a man they all agree is guilty, who they believe is lying about innocence, and who they do not believe is repentant, because at least 4 of the members have concerns about how OK conducts executions.
As far as the board is concerned, the upcoming clemency hearings are no longer about guilt or innocence, but whether it's morally acceptable to execute people using Oklahoma's protocol.
Larry Morris, who was appointed to the board by the court of criminal appeals, voted differently today for Stouffer than he did for Grant. It appears Grant's execution (convulsions, vomiting) changed his mind.
Im watching the clemency hearing of Bigler Stouffer. Right now they're discussing, paraphrasing here, the morality of executing people using Oklahoma's current lethal injection protocol.
Both Larry Morris and Scott Williams are questioning whether it's even right to execute people given how John Grant's execution went and given that there is a federal trial about the protocol and its constitutionality scheduled for Feb
This is the first time, to my knowledge, that they've discussed it so explicitly. Richard Smothermon, former DA, is arguing now that their role is only to decide on the facts, not the morality, not their personal beliefs on the DP and how Oklahoma administers it
I’m at the Tulsa McGirt forum with @cliftonhowze. My first question - who thought this was a good idea? They aporebtky didn’t speak to any tribes about being here and the majority of the speakers are white.
The vast majority of people in attendance are dissenters. After Tulsa DA Steve Kunzweiler finished speaking someone in the crowd yelled “next white person!” to cheers.
Every speaker is interrupted continually because, again, this is a forum comprised primarily of white people intended for white people. But the people in attendance are not white.
I was thinking today of how weird a job journalism is - how that no matter what, every journalist has experiences that don't happen to people in other jobs. It made me think of the time I was held at gunpoint by TPD officers simply because of how stupid I am.
I was working at the @tulsaworld as a night cops reporter. I was determined to do a good job. When I interviewed there, I was much older than the typical night cops (entry level) reporter because I'd gotten a late start in journalism.
I told my future editors in that interview that I planned on working hard and either doing extremely well and succeeding, or discovering that I was no good and failing instantly. Either way I was determined to bust my ass.