I previously said that we would not likely have a verdict before Wednesday. If there is a deadlock, we could also hear from the jury today since they are likely to have had multiple votes by this point... jonathanturley.org/2021/11/16/rit…
...If there is a deadlock, the jury would send a note to the judge. The judge would ordinarily then send back a note to ask the jury to continue to try to reach a verdict...
There is nothing unusual in the length of deliberations, however. It can be the result of simple due diligence rather than a deadlock.
... The average length of jury deliberation is relatively short. In the Van Dyke case, it could the jury only 8 hours to reach a verdict on 16 counts. However it took a jury four days to convict Paul Manafort on eight counts.

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...The result is that McMichael almost sounds like an expert witness in front of the jury on when to properly use force etc. It is a very effective technique by Jason Sheffield.
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...He also laid out an easy course for the jury to follow in its deliberation -- a road map that was missing with Binger. However, the greatest impact was likely the final video as he showed Rittenhouse refraining from using force and then responding to attacks...
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...He also referred to Rosenbaum as harmless and "all bark and no bite." That is glaringly disconnected with this conviction as a child molester and the scenes of him rioting...
...The narrative about the protesters were disconnected from the images that the jury was seeing. I am not sure why Binger felt that need to go as far as he did in his descriptive elements...
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...The loss of the sixth count also removes a default option for the prosecution if the more serious counts collapse. This leaves (even with lesser counts considered) a high cliff for conviction.
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