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Nov 18, 2021 19 tweets 7 min read Read on X
Looks like the Federal Trade Commission's opposition to Facebook's attempt to dismiss their case to break the company into bits for anticompetitive behavior was just filed. Night reading...
this summary of amended complaint's metrics to establish market power is a reminder how absurdly Facebook's lobby tried to argue FTC hadn't backed up their monopoly claim. Having been around a few digital media businesses for 25+yrs, these are valid metrics to move forward. /2
oh, and there's that not-so-minor point, too. the competition used the same metrics. /3
Yes, Facebook argued Daily Active Users and Monthly Active Users didn't measure intensity and then ignored the 3rd metric (Time Spent) which very much measures intensity because according to FB not 100% of the app usage was personal social networking services. Seriously. /4
those who have been around long enough to know the history of comscore (or the company formerly known as MediaMetrix) may enjoy this point to the courts. Amen. Just give us the data, please. /5
Damnit, Mark. As our autocratic CEO, you can't entirely undermine our attempt to create a legal argument to protect you. /6
Raise your hand if you've been unsatisfied with Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg's products.✋🏽/7
There they go again - facebook employees serving up the evidence to entirely undermine our legal arguments. This is why Google reportedly sent out a list of rules of what not to say in writing. /7
I've yet to find anyone to argue with me that the world, and I mean the entire world, would be different if Facebook and Instagram would have had to actually compete with each other over the last five years. /8
side note, little known but we learned through leak documents that this "enforcer" on the legal side was Monika Bickert - years before she pivoted into being Sheryl and Mark's trusted lieutenant on policing content and defending the company in front of lawmakers and on CNN. /9
I mean it doesn't read well - they weaponized their app platform and access to their data by restricting any other app from competing with them in exchange for access while at the same time not letting any app integrated with a competitive personal social network. /10
Zuckerberg and Sandberg have pulled the football on the industry so many times it isn't funny. The word of the company has zero value - I have too many examples to count. /11
I may know someone who signed a multimillion dollar deal for access to those APIs then was cut off from them going forward. I bet we all do. /12
If I were God for a day, I would just restrict Facebook from collecting any/all data from outside and across each of its respective apps (if they're not split up in this case) as the German Cartel Office has ordered. It's a reasonable remedy for their data abuses. /13
It seems like with the $5 billion pay-off and ***second*** consent decree with the Federal Trade Commission, the regulator may be now taking a hint about the moral bankruptcy of the company. /14
Ha, and there it is. Exactly to my last tweet, the Federal Trade Commission says the quiet part out loud, "no one trust you, Facebook. Your word is 'meaningless.'" /15
And glad FTC made this argument regarding the Chair. Imagine if having an adverse opinion of Facebook Inc actually disqualified people from prosecuting a case against Facebook, there would be no lawyer left standing. /16
Here is a link to my thread on the full amended FTC complaint. My abbreviated analysis of tonight's filing is this case is moving forward regardless of the spin Facebook fed through its lobby and influencer-flex when it was originally filed. /eof
"Meta disagreed."
First news report I've seen is from Reuters.
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Jan 21
Woah. Sheryl Sandberg, former COO of Facebook, just sanctioned by Delaware judge for deleting emails ahead of trial this spring. This is the state pension shareholder case alleging the company overpaid the FTC and SEC in $5B+ settlements in order to protect Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Long after the books had been inspected and many lawsuits had played out, it was disclosed last year she had a personal Gmail account under a pseudonym that may have been used for relevant communications. /2 Image
The Judge here calls her a "high sophisticated individual." He probably doesn't know about the 2018 NYT report on how she carved out these issues in her Senate Intel testimony or how their lawyers were sanctioned on related discovery in California. /3 Image
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Jan 16
wow. This AI lawsuit against Facebook keeps getting worse as they reluctantly unseal documents on Court orders.
Check out this allegation. Not only two hrs before discovery cut-off but the Friday before we now know Mark Zuckerberg was deposed... /1 Image
Here is the bit from the newly filed and now unsealed third amended complaint. Allegations here Facebook used torrenting to download a pirated dataset to train LLaMA thereby also "seeding" pirated content globally. This is a BFD. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
In fact, it can be criminal so this count is in the third amended complaint and the state attorney general (hello, @AGRobBonta) should note these allegations here. As it relates to this case, it may also break their privilege claims since it alleged to further a crime. /3 Image
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Jan 14
wow. Upon Court order, incriminating exhibits were unsealed at 3:30am in an AI lawsuit against Meta. Once past a 'fake privilege,' it appears Zuckerberg approved the use of a highly controversial, pirated dataset.
Note OpenAI, too? AI companies with no ethics or guardrails. /1 Image
Here they acknowledge risk in media coverage, and massive EU fines, if "we have used a dataset we know to be pirated." So then you ask yourself the question, did they actually know it was pirated and use it? I uploaded docs - . /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
To that question, here is how the internal project manager describes the dataset. Note the line (these are all my yellow highlights), "when sourced from copyrighted materials without the permission of copyright holders." /3 Image
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Jan 8
woah. This Friday? Too much moving on court dockets so I will surface for you. This matters, in this mega-Facebook case, as highly respected Chenault was Chairman of Facebook's board during its biggest scandals. WSJ reported he left board after disagreements with Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Here is the report on his departure, it includes reports of disagreements with Peter Thiel, too, over elections policies and "clashes" over moderation policies.
Btw, highly relevant to the last 24hrs of news. /2 wsj.com/articles/chena…Image
Moving on, Zuckerberg has also been noticed for deposition after "alleged wrongdoing on a truly colossal scale." He was already deposed last month in Hawaii for 7hrs. I would expect SEC closely compares transcripts to their 2019 depo which @zamaan_qureshi managed to unseal. /3 Image
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Dec 31, 2024
The secret deal (aka "Project Jedi Blue") between Google and Facebook has finally been unsealed in district court tonight. Link in text tweet. /1 Image
Here is a link to the full 48 pages of the agreement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
Here is how NYT reported it in the complaint. Google and Facebook suggested it was misrepresented. Their proxies have misled public into thinking it was dismissed from lawsuit despite Google's CEO being deposed about it only months ago. /3 nytimes.com/2021/01/17/tec…
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Dec 31, 2024
woah. ~300 redacted summary judgment google exhibits posted in TX. I've uploaded all. most eye-popping - we finally get Google-Facebook contract (aka Jedi Blue) alleged as bid rigging (yes, press was misled, it's still part of the claims). /1 Image
If you need a definition for Match Rate, Google and Facebook include it with example of using the "encrypted blob" on mobile, feels very much like a fingerprint y'all. Here is the full contract, don't sleep on section dealing with monopoly enforcement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
There are a ton of new exhibits from discovery with similar themes of Google secretly using projects to manipulate its black box auctions. "The first rule of Bernanke is we don't talk about Bernanke." /3 Image
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