A Lib Dem peer is currently arguing against the collection of biological sex of victims & offenders, specifically if they are transgender. The peer has not yet mentioned women (females) once, despite them being the ones suffering when males identify as females.
Oh my word, she is comparing the collection of biological sex of trans people to the enforced wearing of a pink triangle by the Nazis. 😱
Another Lib Dem peer, let's guess her stance...
Challenging the idea that sex and gender is relevant data to be collected and that only gender identity is sufficient and can keep people safe.
And now the Labour peer who is a little obsessed with lifts and comparing women with white supremacists suggesting data will scare people if they have to declare their race and birth sex. Who are these people scared of data? Lib Dem and Labour peers by any chance?
now an ex-Police Labour peer. "How will a Police officer know what the birth sex is"? Sodding hell, our Police forces have really gone down hill if they can't tell male and female apart
And now he is using the "butch lesbian challenged in the ladies loo" trope. So bloody predictable. This, *this* is the best reason that an ex-copper can give to not collect accurate sex and gender crime stats?
And now quoting stats on trans people and using this as an argument not to collect their birth sex. Is there ANY other group on earth who get this sort of protection and exclusions from any sort of accountability? IS THERE?
If we don't record victims of crime accurately then the idiots who claim that trans people are the most vulnerable, most marginalised don't have any sodding statistics either.
Labour peer uncharacteristically balancing on the fence over recording sex and/or gender, but at least calling for consistency, whether it is woo-based or otherwise.
Gov minister now saying they are quite relaxed for every dept to do their own thing, sex, gender, armpit hair length, whatever.
Now saying that external efforts to standardise definition of sex and gender is sufficient (albeit slow & incomplete) so why both defining it in crime stats.
it may be because I have studied criminology but can ANYONE explain why collecting sex data is a bad thing? Why are these people scared of accurate data collection?
Amendment withdrawn. Going to bed furious. Again.

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