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23 Nov, 15 tweets, 3 min read
so as of MS-DOS 2, there are two types of devices:
character devices are a linear stream of characters, in or out. example devices are a keyboard, display, or printer.
block devices transfer blocks. these are floppies, hard drives, CD-ROM drives.
make sense?
so there must be at least four "BOOT" drivers. every system has these.
These come before all other character and block drivers.
the first is stdin/stdout/stderr, called CON
the second is the auxiliary input/output (sometimes this is a serial port)
the third is considered "standard list output" and is named PRN, so it's either for printers or porn. My money is on printers.
but the fourth one, the one that comes before any block devices that might store programs or data files?

it's slightly weird. it's a character stream, and you may be surprised at what it is
it's CLOCK
because the original IBM PC did not have a real time clock, quickly people started building add-on cards for clocks and including them in 3rd party PC clones. Image
so to support these in DOS and let them easily integrate with DOS, they were included as a basic device type in MS-DOS 2.0
There's basically only 6 device types in MS-DOS 2.0:
block, char in, char out, NUL, CLOCK, and OTHER Image
oh no! SPECIAL devices will only be supported on MS-DOS 2.0, released in October 1983! I better hurry up and use it before Mean Mr. Microsoft disables it.
Lemme just take a big sip of my drink and then look at the calendar Image
so the interesting thing about this driver is which side of the OS it's on.
it's not providing a special device you or your programs can query to find out what time it is (although I suppose it would work for that)
there were already DOS APIs for that
the point of this is to provide TO THE OS a clock. because basically Microsoft is saying "we have no idea how you implement clocks on your weird computers, so just give us a device driver we can query"
it also means that they decided this was one of the fundamental device types they needed to be able to support when they added these new fancy device drivers to their OS
we gotta support DRIVES and SCREENS and KEYBOARDS and PRINTERS and CLOCKS.

the five types.
the five genders
amusingly I have a device to add an real time clock to a PC, and it doesn't use this interface at all.
Instead of being a character device, it just has a program you have to run to query the clock, and you need to put it in your autoexec.bat. it also has a y2k bug. Image
I suspect they made it work this way because they didn't want to use the new interface, as they wanted it to work even on PCs running DOS 1.x

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