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Nov 27, 2021 8 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Die @Leopoldina hat gerade eine Stellungnahme veröffentlicht. Sie fordert:
- die Einführung einer Impfpflicht
- neue Maßnahmen, um Kontakte zu reduzieren (eine Art Lockdown light oder strikte, sanktionierte 2G-Regelung)
- Maskenpflicht und Tests an Schulen
leopoldina.org/publikationen/…
@Leopoldina Die Stellungnahme ist kurz und ich würde mir wünschen, dass jeder (besonders jeder Politiker) sie liest.

Geht schon bei der Vorbemerkung los:
"Es ist zu befürchten, dass Teile der Politik und Öffentlichkeit die Dramatik der Situation nicht in ihrem vollen Ausmaß erfassen.”
@Leopoldina Zum Impfen:
- Mehr Berufsgruppen mit impfen lassen
- Impfzentren wieder auf (mit langen Öffnungszeiten)
- mehr “aufsuchende Impfangebote”
- Impfpflicht für Ärzte, Pfleger, etc
- Vorbereitung einer allgemeinen Impfpflicht
@Leopoldina Zur Kontaktreduktion:
Die Autoren machen zwei Vorschläge
1. Kontakte für alle jetzt sofort für wenige Wochen stark reduzieren
Das "würde bei stringenter Umsetzung den exponentiellen Anstieg der Neuinfektionen in der 4. Welle beenden”
@Leopoldina 2. 2G-Regeln konsequent durchsetzen
"Dies wird allerdings weniger effektiv als Option 1 sein, weshalb mit einem längeren Verlauf der 4. Welle und einer erhöhten Zahl von Todesopfern gerechnet werden muss”
@Leopoldina Zu Kindern/Jugendlichen:
"Unter Berücksichtigung der aufgeführten direkten und indirekten Folgen ist eine Impfung von Kindern und Jugendlichen ab fünf Jahren mit einem geeigneten Impfstoff zu empfehlen”
Außerdem:
- Maskenpflicht und Tests an Schulen
- Weihnachtsferien vorziehen
@Leopoldina Die Stellungnahme kritisiert dann noch die Änderung des Infektionsschutzgesetzes und endet mit einem interessanten Abschnitt zu “Wertfragen”:
@Leopoldina "Auch die Einführung einer allgemeinen Impfpflicht ist unter den aktuellen, vor einem Jahr so nicht vorhersehbaren Umständen ethisch und rechtlich gerechtfertigt: als letzte Maßnahme, um eine Impflücke zu schließen, die sich augenscheinlich anders nicht beheben lässt."

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