Thread by @owenbroadcast

tapping the sign by my door that says local village idiot but after looking through a lot of 1800s stuff it really really kind of seems like everyone acted like and spoke as though states had the right to secede and leave the union right up until some of them actually did it.

i mean are we really supposed to think that when the states entered the union they all thought explicitly that if they ever tried to leave the other states would come there with soldiers and kill them. thats really really really not the vibe you get at all looking at this stuff.

for example just look at how south carolina left + how they went about that. of course there was complications + that was the start of the war but clearly they didnt think they were starting a war when they said they were leaving. am i supposed to just think they missed the memo

like, obviously if they thought that leaving was legal grounds for the other states to invade and kill them and that that was what they agreed to when jointing the US they wouldnt have left in the exact way that they did. in fact it kind of seems like no one thought that at all.

so am i just missing something or what. obviously this isnt my domain of expertise but after a while going over all this stuff the idea that states were allowed to leave is just kind of floating there. other states talked about leaving and it was just a thing. ...right?

because if thats the case uh wouldnt that kind of mean that prior to the civil war the union was [between] the states as sovereign entities + that after, the federal government basically took their sovereignty away without them agreeing to that haha i sure hope that isnt it right

https://twitter.com/owenbroadcast/status/1398068141176111105

actually oddly enough this all started as a detour in my eternal quest to get at the essence and nature of american christianity but now im wondering if it actually is a detour.

https://twitter.com/00lshr/status/1466235549602222080

jeez i sure hope there are no theological implications here like the american system starting from the point of sovereign individuals transferring aspects of that sovereignty to the states who were then sovereign because of that and then all this happening, guess we’ll find out