@MolBioEvol@shingheizhan Against a backdrop of scientists introducing FCSs into the spikes of various CoVs including SARSr-CoVs, the discovery of a unique FCS at the spike S1/S2 boundary in SARS-CoV-2 continues to fuel heated debates about the #OriginOfCovid
@MolBioEvol@shingheizhan Without its FCS, it is unlikely that SARS-CoV-2 would have resulted in a pandemic.
Even in early 2020, it was a straightforward deduction for independent groups of scientists that an S1/S2 FCS could confer functional advantages to a SARSr-CoV.
In humans, mutations impacting the FCS have been rare.
Less than 0.05% of the sequences have mutations at R682 or R683, and even fewer (0.0007%) have mutations at R685.
Leading scientists to suggest that the FCS may be experiencing strong purifying selection in humans.
It is currently difficult to know exactly how unique the SARS-CoV-2 PRRA motif is among SARS-CoV-2-like spike sequences because these viral lineages are relatively under-sampled.
Some papers have proposed alignments that suggest "natural insertions" at the S1/S2 region in some SARS2-like CoVs; however, these still do not result in a polybasic motif or an FCS.
From our analysis, these alignments represent only one of numerous possible alignments.
The most closely related spike genes do not have an apparent S1/S2 FCS.
These observations suggest that among sarbecoviruses, an S1/S2 FCS recently emerged in SARS-CoV-2.
Jack Nunberg, whose group first inserted an S1/S2 FCS into the spike of SARS-CoV, said: “there is no way to know whether humans or nature inserted the site” in SARS-CoV-2. nature.com/articles/d4158…
Gary Whittaker, another virologist whose group also inserted an S1/S2 FCS into the spike of SARS-CoV recently published a comment describing the SARS-CoV-2 FCS as “highly unusual”.
Virologist David Baltimore commented that “these features make a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2,” later clarifying that “you can't distinguish between the two origins from just looking at the sequence”. caltech.edu/about/news/the…
A group of scientists (including frm the Wuhan Institute of Virology) had, in March 2018, proposed a roadmap for detecting novel proteolytic cleavage sites (including FCSs) in the spike sequences of novel SARSrCoVs and inserting these into other SARSrCoVs. theintercept.com/2021/09/23/cor…
After reading the DEFUSE proposal, Nunberg told @theintercept "Whether that particular study did or didn’t [lead to the pandemic], it certainly could have. Once you make an unnatural virus, you’re basically setting it up in an unstable evolutionary place."
An S1/S2 FCS emerging in a SARSrCoV is consistent with natural evolution. Even so, the knowledge that scientists had a workflow for introducing novel cleavage sites into novel SARSrCoVs makes it challenging to determine the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 S1/S2 FCS.
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Things you should never hear nuclear reactor or atomic scientists cite as reasons for wanting to build their facility inside of densely populated cities.
1. How will we recruit top talent? We want to live in the best cities.
2. Accidents rarely happen. We are very skilled.
Yet somehow these reasons justify building labs concentrating and manipulating unpredictable, potential pandemic pathogens in the middle of urban centers with international airports.
Setting aside the point that virus hunting and making chimeric versions of novel viruses played (near) zero role in predicting or preventing the current pandemic, if this type of research is so critical, we must treat it with the reverence it deserves.
"Deep in the underbelly of the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto, freezers.. store bat tissue from around the world, dating back to the late 1980s."
Toronto, please create a local wildlife trade so that there is some ambiguity in case a lab leak occurs. cbc.ca/newsinteractiv…
You won't need much. Something on the order of 10 civet cats a month will ensure that an adequate number of top virologists will express near certainty that any novel virus must have come from the local food market instead of your lab with thousands of diverse pathogen samples.
"amassed roughly 15,000 bat specimens from 400 different species...
the technique also preserves whatever viruses are hiding in the mammals...
And bats carry a lot of viruses...
... the viruses they carry can sometimes ravage humans."
Seeing FOIA'ed email after FOIA'ed email revealing that the top virologists and experts were worrying about a lab #OriginOfCovid in early-to-mid 2020 makes me wonder if just about everyone knew the emperor was naked while the media continued to praise his new clothes.
There were letters published in top scientific journals by top experts asserting that it was a conspiracy theory to say the emperor was naked. No clothes-less scenarios were plausible. Even today some experts are maintaining that the emperor is almost certainly wearing clothes.
There's a difference between perceiving that maybe most people didn't understand the issue at the time, versus perceiving that maybe most people did understand but didn't say so publicly.
If you’re thinking of sponsoring virus hunters so they can tell us about dangerous viruses and advise us to conserve wildlife…
Why not just give your money directly to people who are actually conserving wildlife?
We’ve known for decades that the wildlife trade exposes us to novel animal pathogens. We don’t need to keep pulling out shiny new viruses to convince people that the wildlife trade and wildlife farming (for food, medicine, luxury items) needs to stop.
A culture that glorifies the wildlife trade - as a means for the poor to get rich or as a source of unproven medicines - is not helping to mitigate pandemic risks.
We should encourage other effective means of fighting poverty that don’t exploit wildlife.
I don’t think even the people in China living near Wuhan believe this virus came from nature.
These reported behaviours are completely opposite to what you’d expect if the locals even slightly suspected that the virus might’ve come from the local wildlife.
April 2020 Phillip Russell, former president of American Society of Tropical Medicine & Hygiene told James Le Duc, former director of Galveston National Laboratory that signs "point to the lab as the source of the outbreak."
@USRightToKnow "The flimsiness of the epidemiology pointing to the wet market, the absence of bats in the market, the failure to identify an intermediate animal host, the extraordinary measures taken by the Chinese government...
... including persecution and probable killing of two brave physicians, to cover up the outbreak, the steps taken to silence the laboratory personnel, the change in leadership of the lab, all point to the lab as the source of the outbreak.”