Reading lots of can’t get a mortgage but qualify on income, credit, DTI & lots of self employed (SE) having problems
Here are tips on finding that unicorn lender
1. Ask for referral. What were fees, rate at par (no pts), how long did it take to close, issues/how resolved? 🧵
2. Call each lender & ask questions above. Confirm they lend on what you want to buy. How many SE loans? Ask them for addresses of purchases closed- if they say they can close in 15 days go look at Pending/closed dates. Ask them for client or realtor references. Call them
3. Ask LO for examples of issues & how they solved them. Shit happens, but the good ones solve them & close on time or maybe a day or 2 late but not WEEKS late as a rule. There’s always exceptions but a good loan officer (LO) does the homework upfront before you go into escrow
4. Go with direct lenders & brokers. Avoid retail depository bank esp if SE. Don’t handle probs & non vanilla well. What’s known as “stipping” a loan to death. Stipulation after stip- mostly big banks. Wholesale lenders are used to processing volume
LOs licensed per state
5. Get a local loan officer with a direct phone number. You AND Listing agents do not want to call a 1-800 number and speak to someone different every time. If I call a lender who has no clue who you are or can’t find your file 🚩🚩🚩🚩
6. No such thing as parity in rates/ fees. Shop lender in advance of escrow & pick 1 & stick with. May not get cheapest 1/8th lower rate but if can’t close.
Not seeing origination fees. Common: underwriting/process, credit & appraisal (VA/FHA have upfront funding fees)
7. Every lender on conventional, FHA, VA underwrites to Fannie/Freddie/Ginnie.
Then each institution has their own underwriting overlays. Some have lower DTI, higher reserve, interpret guidelines slightly differently. Hence variances in experience
8. Different lenders offer diff loan programs. Some can do 1st/2nd loans on jumbos allowing 89.9% LTV. Some jumbo requirements are less stringent. Some won’t lend on VA 2-4 units. Some have asset depletion models, bridge loans. Some won’t do investor 2-4
9. 🚩🚩 if LO doesn’t look at tax returns if self employed
-Doesn’t know if you want to buy a condo, SFR or 2-4 unit. Condo complexes must be VA or FHA approved to lend on that building
-Cant answer basic questions or unwilling to educate
10. Why am I confident lenders can do self employed loans? Most Realtors & mortgage brokers are SE either as 1099/S Corp. Many of us own homes with mortgages/refi
My tips are from talking to countless lenders over years vetting them for buyers & interviewing on listing offers
11. If your scenario is unique/ complex a good LO will be willing to run your file (application, credit, tax returns / financial docs) by underwriter.
Your realtor should be helping you with this. Your realtor & lender can make/break your deal or whether your offer is accepted
Disclaimer: I’m not a lender/LO. Not related to one. It’s illegal for Realtors to take $$ for referring 1- TILA-RESPA
+ VA loan- ANY lender can do a VA loan. Some of highest rates & fees + worst experiences are with those lenders that market to veterans
++If your property is in California, I can refer you to CA only licensed lenders. DM me
Who handled my refi? Mortgage broker sent loan to UWM & used Freddie guidelines -simpler for my file. UWM underwrote directly to Freddie, no + overlays. UW wanting audited P&L but broker pushed back. Refi closed 21 days. Other nat’l lenders- Finance of America, Quicken, Caliber
Broker I used I also refer clients to. He does & has consistently done about 1/2 his biz with self employed people. Good brokers know who to broker your loan out to & who not to send it to. Finally a broker if they run into an issue can send your file to another investor
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If home Buyers thought the industry was bad - it’s about to get way worse if you’re a Buyer
The NAR lawsuit makes Buyers Agent comp all negotiated. So if you - Buyer can’t pay a fee to the Buyers Agent at closing - then I guess you’ll go unrepped?
Unless the Seller offers to pay it. But it has to be negotiated per house
Many Buyers won’t have the cash to pay a Buyers Agent. So they’ll go unrepped or the Listing agent will negotiate to get paid by the Seller so no independent representation. And if the Listing Agent gets paid MORE to also rep the Buyer then it creates really perverse incentives to the Listing Agent.
And no I can’t just charge Buyers a fee upfront to work with me - we can’t just create new comp models as Agents - it’s regulated. In CA I CANT charge clients an engagement fee - so I work for free until a transaction closes
So if Sellers let their Listing Agent rep all the Buyers instead for a reduced additional fee - and you think this is a win for you Seller
If you thought Agents were overpaid at 2-3% (yes the overall fee is usually paid to both sides, sometimes evenly, sometimes not) a huge part of this is because we cannot charge up front
We are NOT paid until the deal closes. So every time an unrealistic Seller wasted the Listing Agents time, only to fire them and re-list with another Agent at a much lower price, OR the Buyer never buys, we don't get paid
So yeah the entire comp model has been broken and I've been saying this for years.
Everyone should have some skin in the game- Sellers AND Buyers should pay us an engagement fee
This will flush out all the useless Agents who don't ad value. And this would make Sellers and Buyers actually vet their Agents more diligently
Want to raise the bar? Stop regulating how we can get paid
If you are self employed- please read this post IF you want to buy a house this year, get a mortgage
I'm tired of reading the posts of if you make 500k but are self employed, its harder to get a mortgage than someone making 50k
First off, please think about how ridiculous your post sounds.
You SHOULD have a lot more in savings than someone making 50k and should be able to qualify to buy a lot more house.
Everyone qualifies on Debt to Income ratio. 50% DTI assuming you have no other debt
50k = $4,166 /month. 50% = $2083 you can contribute to housing
500k= $41,667 / month. 50%= $20,833 you can contribute to housing
OH BUT 500k person wrote off almost ALL your income so now you look poor to the IRS
Ok, so which is it? Are you poor, a bad business person who makes no money, OR do you have lotsa money and therefore GSEs aka Fannie/Freddie should loan you $1M?
Still here? Ok, so ya still want to buy a house- keep reading
So here's the short answers
YES you can get a mortgage. Guess how many of us in Real Estate are self employed and own property?
A LOT of US!
Yes you have to show income!
Yes you have to share your financials
No the mortgage rate does NOT have to be higher
No the mortgage doesn't take forever to close
If you want to read more including what happens if you are paid in bonus or stock comp- read the details in this post!
Every loan officer/ lender should be able to do these loans. There are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac guidelines which govern and specifically allows for Self Employed Borrowers and Retiree Borrowers.
So if they say they don’t know how, don’t do them, or do not do them commonly, RUN!
If you get a No before the loan officer as fully reviewed all of your financials, tax returns, etc. Move and call other Lenders
If the loan officer is NOT responsive or is taking too long. In most scenarios, Young says he can review a Borrowers documentation within the calendar day. In more complex or challenging scenarios where he needs to run it by an underwriter it can be 1-3 business days depending on how complex the scenario
If you’re young and trying to buy a home in San Diego or any other of the top most expensive cities in America.
And wondering how you’ll ever afford it - here’s some realities
* You live in an expensive city. Stop reading national news or hearing about young people buying huge homes in the Midwest, the south for under 500k or 50k.
* Not the first generation who couldn’t afford to buy a house in an expensive city even by your 30s.
Those of us who are young Gen X, almost no one in my peer group living in expensive cities were buying homes before 30. Some before 40.
Many of us were paying off student loans, credit card debt from early years living in NYC, SF, LA etc.
Trying to save and build enough cash not just for a down payment but for a cushion. Some of us graduated during the .com bust and had job offers rescinded or got laid off shortly after graduation.
Then the GFC happened. So some of us definitely wanted a sizeable rainy day fund
* Yes our peers who stayed in TX or or lived in cheaper places bought huge homes or apartments in their 20s
But we weren’t comparing ourselves to them because we know we were living in the most expensive cities in the US.
* A lot of people bought their 1st home far far from their dream. They bought in neighborhoods they wouldn’t have considered for rent. They bought condos or homes in really poor condition to fix it up
* A lot of us had to wait it out. We waited, saved, bought after the GFC
How are younger people buying now? Well it depends on how you define young but here’s some commonalities
* You’re competing against intergenerational wealth. Yes some people have grandparents / parents who are gifting them 100ks or more. Or just buying them a house outright in cash
* Plenty of DINKs - dual income no kids who both make 6 figures and have been saving for 10+ years. Or have kids but just very high earners
* Owned a home in a less expensive city that appreciated massively and they sold / having a lot of equity to bring into their current buy
* Extreme savers. Single people - people who have just diligently saved for many years
* Are willing to house hack. They currently rent a house with roommates. They buy a comparable house and take their roommates with them
They buy a 2-4 unit. 75% of the income on the rentable units can help you qualify to buy. Starting in Nov you can put just 5% down on a conventional loan.
* In general you’re thinking but I just want to buy a small starter home. You’re also competing against Boomers downsizing who want that 1 story home in a walkable neighborhood near culture, restaurants, their kids/grandkids. Investors. 2nd & 3rd homes - SD attracts lots of wealthy non primary homeowners who wants a piece of SD
Spoke to Axios on this topic
San Diego is the 3rd most expensive city in the country. Thanks @SFR_Investor for sharing this