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Dec 27, 2021 12 tweets 4 min read Read on X
CDC’s new guidance to drop isolation of positives to 5 days without a negative test is reckless

Some ppl stay infectious 3 days,Some 12

I absolutely don’t want to sit next to someone who turned Pos 5 days ago and hasnt tested Neg

Test Neg to leave isolation early is just smart
I am 100% for getting people to drop isolation early.

Heck, I formally recommended it to CDC in May 2020 and Published the recommendation in J of Clin Infectious Diseases in April 2020.

But it was always with a negative test.

What the heck are we doing here?

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This is the part that hurts the most. The reason they are doing this:

"The change is motivated by science demonstrating... SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs... generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after"

That was BEFORE OMICRON.

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Today, it is OBVIOUS the situation has changed.

Ppl are testing earlier b/c symptom onset is early - no longer two days after people are infectious.

So now people are staying positive even longer after testing positive, because they find out earlier they are positive.

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And by positive I don't mean PCR positive. I mean rapid antigen test positive for days longer. Often more than 10 days.

So to say, leave isolation regardless of if you have a positive antigen test is remarkable.

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Someone KNOWN to be Pos for 5 days is, in my view, still one of the highest risk individuals in society for onward spread. We do SO much just to find ppl who are positive in first place. When we do identify them, we should do everything possible to keep them from spreading

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At least, If leaving isolation at 5 days w/out Neg test - WEAR N95 or similar performing mask

Govn't should provide them to everyone who enters isolation (along with a rapid test!)

If entering isolation - click a button & get N95 & rapid test SIMPLE

@linseymarr @kprather88
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This is but one of a nearly limitless set of examples of how reckless this decision is.


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The thing that really hurts me the most - is that not requiring a positive rapid test to leave isolation is probably linked to a perception of not having enough rapid tests in the US...

Which is obviously a massive problem in its own right but one that is EASILY changed.

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We CAN get the tests

We CAN. Many countries are getting these and more.

This doesn't have to be a hard decision:

In Isolation? Yes --> Click a button --> Get 2 rapid tests delivered to you for free for use on day 5 and if still neg on day 6, exit.

A good example - among so so many of why rote removal from isolate without a negative test is just not a smart public health move.

We put all this effort into discovering infectious people... why not at LEAST ensure those we do discover don't spread on.

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May 3
Such a bad interpretation that stands to harm patient care

Let's not throw the baby out w the bathwater for COVID-19 (and flu etc)!

Suggesting to only run PCR & not rapid means most (50%-80%) of patients get WORSE care & at higher costs

Here's why:

A 🧵

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When I see publications & docs say “don’t use a rapid test, only use a PCR”

it assumes this is an OR only situation

Ridiculous!

A rapid test is… RAPID… and highly affordable

You lose ~nothing by it and give your patient the opportunity to GAIN tremendously

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If the test is positive, then for that 80%+ of culture positive ppl … your job is done immediately

You’ve spent $5 and 5 minutes and they can get on treatment right away

If you didn’t do it, it will be be 1-2 days and ~$150 before they can get started on treatment

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Apr 20
Here we go again with this asinine cautious approach to testing for H5N1

CDC is NOT recommending that people with no symptoms - but who have had contact w infected animals - be tested at all… and certainly are not recommending a swab w any frequency.

Though we should have learned it in 2020, Here’s why this doesnt make sense:

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Firstly, tests are our eyes for viruses. It’s literally how we see where viruses are

If we wait until people are getting sick, we may have missed a major opportunity to find viruses jumping into humans before they learn to become so efficient in us that they cause disease

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So waiting until we actually have highly pathogenic strains harming humans - when we have a pretty discreet population at the moment to survey - is short sighted

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Read 11 tweets
Jan 16
A lot of questions still on:

How long should I isolate?

Do I need to isolate?

When can I go back to work?

Is 5 days enough?

What if I’m still positive?

Why am I not positive when I first get symptoms?

This thread below (and the embedded thread) goes through many of these questions
Now that symptoms start earlier w COVID (bc immunity activates symptoms fast after exposure)

A frequent ? that comes up is what this means for Paxlovid

Often ppl think it means you have to start Paxlovid earlier

Nope - Opposite! You have more time

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Bc symptoms start faster but the growth of the virus still takes about the same time as it used to…

Symptom onset today is ~2d post exposure where before it was ~5d

So, as far as virus growth is concerned, day 5 post symptoms (when the trials took place) is day ~8 today

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Jan 8
A heartbreaking consequence of lapses in vaccination!

A measles outbreak is spreadinf in Philadelphia.

MEASLES! It sends kids to the hospital, erases existing immune memory (creating long term risks) and kills 1 in 1000

It was eliminated in the US, but we seem hell bent on reversing that

inquirer.com/health/measles…
A particularly deadly consequence of measles is its erasure of previously acquired immune memory - setting kids and adults up for infections that they shouldn’t be at risk from!

We found for example that measles can eliminate as much as 80% of someone’s previously acquired immunity to other pathogens!
science.org/doi/full/10.11…
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Jan 3
This paper from Kaiser on new XBB1.5 vax formulation is misleading

NO, it does NOT say that prior vaccination w non updated XBB1.5 vaccines offer no protection

No, it doesn’t even say the XBB1.5 updates to the vaccine formulation are important

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medrxiv.org/content/10.110…
Here are the key conclusions.
They are WAY misleading

The major issue is w the timing

The comparison is

A) a VERY recent XBB1.5 vaccine given in last 30 days,

Vs…

B) A vaccine received ~1 year or more ago!

Any effect is first and foremost owing to recency of vax

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Given everything we know about major short term (weeks - few months) immune responses after vax or infections

The comparison is NOT able to say anything about the importance of updating the vaccine formulation for variants

It simply says what any Immunology 101
Text says..

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Dec 24, 2023
Tip on pooling home tests

I’m gathering w family. Had one @Pfizer Lucira multiplex COVID-Flu home molecular test

Had 6 people and 6 swabs

Everyone used one swab. Dunked all 6 into one Pfizer Lucira test

Neg.

Tested everyone for price of one!

Pooling at home works!
Pooling can work w home tests including rapid antigen and rapid molecular tests

However for antigen id be a bit more cautious and not put more than 3 swabs in the buffer

With molecular, particularly Pfizer Lucira bc it has a large volume buffer, 6 is no problem.
Here’s a nasal swab that would work. Don’t use it as a nasopharyngeal swab at home - just use it like any home self swab and swab the anterior nares

a.co/d/iCO1nsI
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