Thread by @gatamchun

Back in the US today btw where defamation laws are QUITE different 💅🏻

The response from Clien, after JTBC sent a “we will sue you if you keep saying mean things” statement

I’m actually curious how they think this will play out for them if they follow through. The cognitive dissonance between “we have freedom of expression!” and “we will sue you if you criticize!” cannot be lost upon them, surely?

Anyway, very interesting they apparently only sent this to Clien, a famously left-wing forum that supports the current center-left presidential candidate. What about the person who started the (now 350K strong) Blue House petition? Or theqoo?

Curious if they sent this ti the memorial foundations/families of the NSA’s victims, which have spoken out against the drama as well? They also think the show is historical distortion, so….?

It’s an awful look for a drama whose writer has professed to being indebted to the current conservative presidential candidate, Yoon Seok-yeol, for helping with her research for a previous drama 🤭

m.sports.khan.co.kr/amp/view.html?…

Headline: “Snowdrop” scriptwriter Yoo Hyun-mi points to Yoon Seok-yeol as a writing helper from her past

현 보수후보인 윤석열을 집필도우미라고 한 작가가 집필한 새 드라마를 끌리앙에서 비판했는데, 진보후보 이재명 지지기반이 강한 끌리앙에 저런 고소 협박문을 보내는 게 어떻게 보일지 생각을 안해본 걸까

Disney+ is going to absolute love the headline “Disney+ drama sues online commenters for saying their drama distorts history, victims and families say it does”

All right time to tweet some more this has totally woken me up lmao

This post on theqoo advising people to call Seolganghwa (the Korean title) "Seolginghwa" instead, or "Seolmanghwa" ("mang" meaning "flop") so they won't get sued
theqoo.net/index.php?mid=…

Justification being "well they changed Yeongcho to Yeongro and said that makes it ok, so if we call Snowdrop "Snowflop" that makes it ok too right"

Another post on theqoo reminding people to remember the actors who participated in the show
theqoo.net/index.php?mid=…

I will say, the demographic here is young, female consumers, who broadcast stations typically are desperate to court because they're the ones who actually spend money

Since the news of JTBC's new "policy" dropped, the top "hot" posts on theqoo have all become Snowdrop. Was that the desired effect, I wonder?

The top 5 post titles in order, translated
- JTBC's legal response also sent to Ppomppu
- One-line summary of JTBC's position on Snowdrop
- A hot tip from JTBC on avoiding getting sued
- A network we need to re-evaluate now after Snowdrop
- Worst drama of 2021, Top 1

This extremely compelling reaction image used in a comment on Ppomppu, another website that received the JTBC policy email

Caption reads: "yEs yeS mEsSage RecEiveD"

And someone on Clien has already rolled up their sleeves to refute JTBC's claims that they have not distorted history... hoo boy
clien.net/service/board/…

The post is titled "Shattering Snowdrop: the name Eun Yeong-ro (Part 1)" oh god

Still confused by how they think they can sue
- A drama production is not an individual who can be defamed
- A 2014 court ruling already said that defamation based on the criticism of a "group" is invalid
- They also have to prove they quantitatively lost viewers bc of this

- Is the drama entitled to the same kind of character protection as actual humans? Is that what they're going to argue?
- Can they persuasively prove that they lost viewers because of the criticism, and not because their drama is dogshit?

고소할 수 있는 근거가 너무 궁금함
- 드라마가 인격체임? 명훼가 가능한?
- 드라마가 입은 피해가 이 비판 여론 때문이라는 걸 증명할 수 있음? 드라마를 너무 못만들어서가 아니라?

명훼 고소 당하면 뭐... 당하는 거겠죠. 딱히 방송사 쪽에 유리한 그림이 그려질 것 같진 않네요. 어차피 독싱되나 명훼 고소 당하나 신상 까발려지는 건 시간문제 같기도 하고.

A quick check on the legal basis that JTBC ~kind of implies~ they will use against critics in their new "policy" statement

"Recently there has been false information and unfounded criticism that has been repeatedly and continuously disseminated about Snowdrop."

This implies that a) the information is false, and b) that "dissemination of false information" is a punishable offense.

"Dissemination of false info" is an oft-invoked "crime" but actually it doesn't exist in Korean law. What does exist are laws on defamation, elections, and obstruction of justice.

- Defamation is clearly defined as "damaging the reputation of a person," (사람의 명예를 훼손한 자). Snowdrop is a media production, not a human being. Good luck with arguing that.
- Election law forbids the dissemination of false info about election candidates. Does not apply.

- Obstruction of justice is applicable when someone prank calls the police or the military in emergency situations. This came up because there were people who pretended to be victims of the Sewol ferry incident, and muddied the investigation of the situation.

Second to last line: "We will be responding strongly to any unfounded slander or fabricated information that is unrelated to this drama, so please be advised."

No specific info whatsoever on what "responding strongly" means. Are they going to cancel online commenters? Unclear!

Anyway, once again it is clear there were a... group of people who did not bother to read the text. Very possibly because they can't.

No, seriously, someone point out the bit in the JTBC statement that states "we are going to sue you"

Because trust me if they could outright say "we will sue" they would have said it lmfao

Literally think of any K-pop agency that has stated they will protect their artists. They all said "we will take legal action" plain and simple.

Anyway yeah let me know if I get sued

Latest update to new drama name: 설사화 (Diarrhea Flower)

Sports DongA TV critic on JTBC's latest action
"What JTBC has to remember more than anything is that there are those who have lived through the 1980s, and the families who have protected them."
entertain.naver.com/now/read?oid=3…

"Even if the media work is fictional, if parts of it are portrayed as true, then this will definitely come across as an offense to some people. It is the job of the creator to examine those elements. This is as important as the freedom of creative expression."

Oops, sorry, forgot to link the post from theqoo calling the show "Diarrhea Flower"
theqoo.net/index.php?mid=…

The entire post is theqoo members lamenting about how JTBC apparently doesn't know that posters on theqoo never fucking read the pinned posts or announcements

Conspicuously missing from the list of forums and websites that JTBC sent their policy statement to:
Ilbe (far right-wing, often compared to 4chan/8chan),
FM Korea (nicknamed "the other Ilbe), and DC Inside
bbs.ruliweb.com/community/boar…