As reported by one media outlet: ”Lia Thomas, a transgender swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania has been shattering pool, meet and program records at the school.
The 22-year-old took down her competition in the 500-yard women’s freestyle preliminaries and finals at the Zippy Invitational at the University of Akron. Her winning time of 4:34.06 is now the best in the country for the event.”
So now let’s put that statement into true context – did Lia break a Woman’s record, yes she did – so is she now the fastest female swimmer at this distance, no she isn’t.
Because at another event within days of Lia’s widely reported ‘record shattering swim’, in the Women’s 500 free at a Junior Nationals (west) in Austin, 16 year old Bella Sims recorded a time of 4:32:28, and in the very same race 15 year old Katie Grimes touched the wall...
just behind her in 4:32:97 – So when two girls beat Lia’s time by around 2.5 seconds did those media outlets revise their ‘smashing all women’s records’ statement?
Lia also swam in another race in that event and this race also delivered media sensationalist headlines – Lia won the 1,650m race by a massive distance of 38 seconds!
Surely this is a sign that everything is not right? But again, let’s keep calm, take a step back, and look at the facts rather than the sensationalist headlines – yes, Lia won this race by a massive distance, but all this proved was her ability compared to those competing on...
that day – so how did her winning time compare to the Women’s NCAA record for this event – and the answer is Lia’s time was 56 seconds slower! So no, Lia is not dominating women’s Swimming, and here are her times compared to the US record times:
100 freestyle: Lia Thomas 49:42 - NCAA Women’s record 45:56
200 freestyle Lia Thomas 1:43:47 - NCAA Women’s record 1:39:10
500 freestyle Lia Thomas 4:35:06 - NCAA Women’s record 4:24:06
1,650 freestyle Lia Thomas 15:59:71 - NCAA Women’s record 15:03:31
Lia, who is just 12 months into her treatment - has she retained all he male puberty advantages? Let’s not forget that pre transition Lia was recognised as a star swimmer and at High School 2016/17 was a Boy’s Regional Champion swimmer in the University Interscholastic League.
This is her best time comparison that clearly shows a reduction in her sporting ability since transition:
200 freestyle 1:43.47 – pre transition 1:39:31
500 freestyle Lia Thomas 4:35.06 - pre transition 4:18.72
1,650 freestyle Lia Thomas 15:59.71 - pre transition 14:54:76
The impact is clear for all to see and only 12 months into her treatment it is clear that her sporting ability has dropped.
• • •
Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to
force a refresh
My interview on @GMB prior to L Hubbard, competing in Tokyo.
There was hysteria b4 the games. The deers in the headlights saying she will dominate.Laurel came last she competed with a massive disadvantage & that disadvantage is androgen deprivation.
"It’s like taking the gas out of the car," says Worley. "When you lose testosterone in your physiology it’s like the car starts to shake when you take the petrol out of it. Certain functions of the body decrease or even stop functioning altogether."
"Everybody needs hormones, it’s just that we need different types of hormones depending on what chromosome type you are. And that's the problem, we've tried to homogenise gender and we've tried to compare apples with oranges.
@WorldRugby put together a hurried survey of 200 elite female rugby players stating they had played against elite trans players, when we know there are none registered currently. @VeritySmith19 made the room go quiet when he asked them to explain what a trans athlete looks like?
and we know they can’t possibly have played against them because @CarolineLayt is the only trans woman to have ever played elite women's rugby union & rugby league. @WorldRugby and their working group never included a single trans woman rugby player at any stage.
They merely compared elite male rugby players compared to elite female players. And their main body of evidence the Wiik study the main author here says it's worthless in relation to trans women in sport.
Prior to the 2018 Commonwealth Games and the Tokyo Olympics
the TERFS said Laurel Hubbard was unbeatable even though Hubbard's best lift is a massive 55kg under the world record of Li Wen Wen. In 2018 Hubbard broke her elbow & in Tokyo she came last. omny.fm/shows/afternoo…
The important question isn’t, Do trans women have advantages? What really matters is can trans women & cis women compete against one another in meaningful competition. There’s no indication that trans women are anywhere close to taking over women’s sport, it’s not happening now.
It’s not likely to happen anytime in the future.
Whenever the TERFs have to cite either McKinnon, Fox, Hubbard, Mouncey or the 2 trans HS students in Connecticut as their example of the ’trans advantage remind them not a single trans woman has ever won a sports scholarship
21 years on from my transition I have faced a lot of hardship. There’s been bouts of homelessness, depression & a brutal gang rape. But I am still here, & I am proud. In the second half of my life, I want to be an inspiration to trans kids everywhere.