Bob Woodward and I will be on CNN tonight with Anderson Cooper. Tomorrow morning, we'll be on "Morning Joe" and "The View."
To prepare, I'm going through my old notebooks tonight from the "Peril" project, the January 2021 box of notebooks. Here are some notes...
"1/5 city empty, freezing cold, trash uncollected. rats everywhere. Willard a hot spot. MAGA clashing with police there. Rowdy. Back of Willard- black cars? Folo."
Later, we went back and forth on whether to include the detail on rats in book and decided against it. Extraneous.
We later learned that Giuliani, Trump's lawyers/allies, and Bannon crew were arriving in those cars... and it took months to fully understand, but eventually we understood and confirmed the scope of the Willard war rooms and Trump's connection to them.
Looking through these notes, worth remembering the true volatility in U.S. one year ago, Jan. 5-8. A VP was on the brink, being urged to be tip of spear for a delay/block of certification. Giuliani even wanted to go over to VP's home and give him a talking to, late on 1/5.
Pence eventually has dinner that night at residence with several supporters/donors. Giuliani doesn't go over. But strikingly, and not to be forgotten, Trump campaign issues a late statement saying Pence *agrees* w/ Trump position on election. Stuns Pence and his advisers.
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"Next to Freedom Plaza, upstairs in a suite at the famed Willard Hotel," Bannon, Giuliani and other lawyers/allies were "prodding Republicans in Congress by phone to join forces with Trump on January 6 and block Biden's certification."
"As midnight approached... people in the streets were yelling, delighted and almost euphoric about Trump taking back the election."
"Trump soon called Giuliani, and then called Steve Bannon... 'He was very arrogant,'" Trump said of Pence.
"Trump's four words were sobering. It was Trump explaining away a deal gone bad. Pence was not going to break. If Mike Pence was arrogant, that meant Trump's push was dead. 'Very arrogant,' Trump repeated. Trump kept tweeting into the night."
(thread) Based on our reporting, Eastman begins drafting his memo in late Dec. and Trump WH has it by the new year. WH then gives it to Sen. Lee and others on Jan. 2, as we document in "Peril."
But by Jan. 3, after Pence meets w/ Sen. Parliam., it's clear he's not coming along.
On Jan. 4, Pence is in Georgia for a rally, but once he flies back, Trump calls him to the Oval. See "Peril" pgs. 224-227. "I'm getting guidance that says I can't," Pence tells Trump and Eastman, who is there. "Listen. Listen to John," Trump replies.
As Eastman and Trump pressure Pence and Pence's aides/lawyers, the rest of the Trump WH is in full-steam ahead mode that same day. See "Peril" chapter 41. "Graham was at the WH on January 4, where he received some memos supporting Trump's claims." We put those memos in the book.
(thread) On Nov. 8, 2021, the January 6 committee issued new subpoenas as it continues its investigation.
After spending much of the year working with @realBobWoodward on “Peril,” here are some questions I have as a reporter, based on what we have uncovered so far.
On Nov. 7, 2020, Kushner and campaign officials meet in Arlington then Stepien and Miller, issued subpoenas today, talk to Trump. Biden has just been declared the winner. But Trump refuses to concede in private discussions that afternoon and eve. What did he say? (p. 143-144)
“Meatballs and pigs in a blanket” are served at WH on evening of Nov. 7, 2020. Trump tells Dave Bossie and other campaign aides to keep fighting. He then *pushes them to find votes.*
“How do we find the 10,00 votes that we need in Arizona?” (p. 146)
After Pence leaves Oval on Jan. 5, Trump is furious. Pence isn't breaking. He opens the door near the Resolute Desk. "A rush of cold air blasted the room." He can hear the mob in the streets outside the Willard. He's elated to hear them. (p. 230)
"As staffers filed in, some began to shiver. Still, Trump did not close the door... The noise outside grewe louder, almost like a party.
'Isn't that great?' Trump exclaimed. 'Tomorrow is going to be a big day.'" (p. 231)
"Trump went around the room, asking for advice about congressional Republicans. 'How do we get them to do the right thing?' he asked. No one offered an answer that satisfied him."
Important to remember what prompted the subpoena — scenes in PERIL showing Bannon and Trump speaking about the 6th, thinking it through. Talking about Pence.
“People are going to go, ‘What the fuck is going on here? We’re going to bury Biden on January 6th, fucking bury him.’”
This was not just about a stray comment on a radio/podcast program. This is about Trump. Conversations with a president who is trying to stoke chaos on the Hill and push the election to the House so he can stay in power.
Bannon, Giuliani, the Willard. Pushing Pence on the eve.
Trump is working the levers of power on night of Jan. 5…
Eastman memo reveals the details of Trump’s legal plan. But Bannon and Trump conversations remain key to understanding the rest of the story — Trump’s behind the scene efforts to stir up his supporters, ramp up pressure…
One episode on Jan. 5 that deserves more attention: Trump issued a statement late at night speaking for Pence, hours before the next day's certification.
Trump declared he and Pence were in "total agreement that the [VP] has the power to act."
Of course, they were not.
"This breaks protocol," Pence chief Marc Short said tersely in phone call with Trump adviser Jason Miller, who was at the Willard with Giuliani and Bannon, among others. Miller refused to retract a word.
From pgs. 233-234 of PERIL
Why this matters: the Trump-Pence Oval meeting on Jan. 5 was not the end of it. Even when Pence flatly refused to do what Trump wanted, Trump soon decided to issue a public statement defining the vice president's power and position on the election.