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@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 Fruitionism (F) has a LOT to say about values such as good and bad. I hinted at some of it with "generate novel..axiological values" and "'telos pluralism'...shall always be 'tragic'", but it's hard to describe every detail of a philosophy in a set of tweets.🙂

So to describe a

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 bit more, F, like Pragmatism, claims value pluralism, not value monism, so there is no concept of "the good", only a plurality of frameworks of good. F generalizes this to claim "axiological pluralism": there is a plurality of value frameworks (aesthetic,

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 moral, etc). Furthermore, this pluralism is perpetually "tragic" in the sense of generating conflicts that cause deep suffering.

So F unabashedly embraces relativism (which BTW Rorty did not fully embrace until his mature philosophy). For example, increasing fruitfulness of

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 SARS-CoV-2 (e.g., more variants) could cause decreasing fruitfulness in humans (only time will tell the full story). Certainly, the increasing fruitfulness of humanity has decimated the fruitfulness of various ecosystems.

Finally, on the issue of "guide to the good", F puts

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 Pragmatism's claims re guidance on steroids: the only reliable guide to any desires or beliefs is experience. So assess them we must put them to the test. We must experiment by putting them into practice, even when such practices seem abhorrent to some other system of

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 values. This doesn't mean we have to let everyone try anything whatsoever. Once tested and rejected, we may choose to forbid further experimentation (e.g., slavery, torture, dueling) but even this can be risky. "Experimenting" with practices like atheism, homosexuality, and

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 interracial marriage was banned for millennia, causing untold suffering. What F completely rejects (like Pragmatism) is any attempt to generate guidance a prior or from first principles or merely from tradition.

Some see this retrospective, experimental, approach to axiological

@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 guidance as a negative, a shortcoming, a lack. That's OK, F is all about axiological guidance pluralism. Let's put different axiological guidance frameworks to the test and check in over the decades to see how things are going!

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@FHaruspex @Jeffrey_Howard_ @joseph_morris @teddyburkhardt @SeanCr8on @bodhidave3 Major epiphany: There's a legal tradition of deferring ex ante decision making, & it's a metaphor entwined w/ fruitfulness...

Ripeness! "A claim is not ripe for adjudication if it rests upon contingent future events that may not occur as anticipated".
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